Angelina well, we got used to having to endure certain restrictions during corona. i don't really see the difference. if the government could find a reason why chastity belts are good and useful, they can enforce it. that's exactly how the government managed to do it with the masks at corona, i couldn't imagine that 2 years ago either. wait a few more years and chastity belts could also become a reality

Eeek! Do you think over-population or farming insufficiency could ever lead to a literal governmental clamp down on sexual activity?

    Angelina if the government could find a reason why chastity belts are good and useful, they can enforce it. that's exactly how the government managed to do it with the masks at corona,

    Hmm. Not wearing a mask is perfectly obvious and makes enforcement easy. Other than being in a really good humor it's not clear to me how law enforcement would identify people who are getting themselves laid.

      Jonas Eeek! Do you think over-population or farming insufficiency could ever lead to a literal governmental clamp down on sexual activity?

      Honestly, while I do not want to derail this topic any more than I already have, it would be a refreshing change for western governments to discourage breeding for once.

      Angelina well, we got used to having to endure certain restrictions during corona. i don't really see the difference.

      "Having to endure" seems like a strong word for masks. I find it quite reasonable to wear them, in fact I have taken to wearing them more often than legally required, sometimes to the ridicule of otherwise reasonable people (who do wear their masks where required). I mean, I am already required to wear pants for the sake of my fellow citizens, what more is one tiny piece of fabric?

      On the other hand, with some other restrictions, I very much begrudgingly obeyed them knowing that there was a specific and important cause and it would be for a limited time if society behaves reasonably. The latter portion has sadly become a very big "if", but I am glad that "not leaving the house unless absolutely necessary" and "only meet with one person who is not from your household" had quickly served their purpose.

      I could see a justification for requiring chastity belts in public spaces (though not their continued wear once in the privacy of your home), mainly as a prevention for sexual misconduct, but considering how impractical chastity belts are that emergency removal is something that should always be on a belt user's mind, I do not see that becoming the norm any time soon.

        youdontknowme Honestly, while I do not want to derail this topic any more than I already have, it would be a refreshing change for western governments to discourage breeding for once.

        It's a serious issue, and one which in combination with environmental/farming pressure could conceivably lead to the fantasy dystopia being discussed here.

        On the wider topic; I think widespread chastity would be more likely through chemical or wetware intervention than metal belts.

        The latter could only possibly succeed where chastity belts had been heavily promoted both socially and as desirable fashion items. Until there's a "swoosh" on my new belt I won't believe it likely.

          Ines Of course a virginity exam should be absolutely mandatory in this scenario.

          What if she is not virgin?

          Jonas Personally, I consider chastity belts a much more attractive fashion style than prominent brand icons. It is a shame that so many people out there think differently.

          But yeah, if a government were to discourage population increase, it would start with economic methods (i.e. cut benefits for families), and then maybe sanctions against actually having children, like we have seen in China. Maybe promoting birth control. But limiting intercourse itself - only realistic after all those avenues have already been explored.

            youdontknowme Personally, I consider chastity belts a much more attractive fashion style than prominent brand icons. It is a shame that so many people out there think differently.

            So you're saying that you'd rather see the waist belt of a chastity belt stick out over the lowrider pants, than underwear sticking out with the brand name prominently visible? Yes, I can dig that 😮

            On both men and women. Would be an interesting time when "less conspicuous" becomes an argument against cages.
            Personally, I am not a fan of low-sitting pants at all though, but at least flashing a belt's waist band would be an upside.

            Jonas Until there's a "swoosh" on my new belt

            Isn't their slogan, "Just do it"? It seems a perfect combination with a branded chastity belt! 🤣

              Jonas Now you are reminding me of an Epica song:

              Go for it
              Just do it
              Walk my way just to serve me

              Go for it
              Just do it
              Kneel for me and obey me

              Jonas I would definitely classify masturbation as a potentially addictive behaviour, but I've not been convinced by arguments that such addictions always require therapy. People may smoke and over-eat because they are fruitlessly trying to fill gaps in their lives, but many also do these things simply because they feel nice.

              I agree.

              youdontknowme it is hard to classify it as addiction unless you spend so much time on it that it prevents you from doing other things.

              Right.

              youdontknowme Generally, I would say an addiction is an unnecessary something you compulsively do without really enjoying it.

              Good definition,I think.

              youdontknowme electronic tagging perhaps? Little RFID tags in the chastity belts (and authorized keys, and unlock licenses) so anyone passing within close proximity of a checkpoint can be scanned to ensure they are wearing the belt and leaving their key behind if they do not have a license with them.

              Not a bad idea.

              But it should include something to be sure it is the right person wearing it,that it is locked,and with the right lock

              youdontknowme maybe some people are into the more hands-on option.

              At least,it can be sure it is rightly locked.

              youdontknowme a significant amount of the population deciding it was not as bad as they feared?

              No chance if not mandatory and not without an incentive to wear it.

              Ines the girl lose opportunities of achieving universitary studies, jobs with good societal consideration...

              Very strict for a single mistake!

              youdontknowme I would hope there are ways a young woman could restore her honor, such as finding a husband who will accept her despite her "troubled" past, or going through a state-sanctioned penance like what Vanessa talked about in another topic.

              It would be better,yes.

              Avery But he had found a way to make the behavior inconvenient and he did eventually quit.

              Interesting to know it worked.

              Avery

              It's like professional athletes who should not have sex the day before a game(not sure it is true,however).

              Ines but it should not be a well societal accepted marriage. I mean, as you say, she is a lower cast.

              Like a misalliance?

              Ines only thing I support will be a mandatory wearing of chastity belt in University

              Even if not willingly(which would probably be the case for some women if mandatory)?

              Avery

              I agree,it is pretty different.

              gwen

              🤣

                Vanessa Interesting to know it worked.

                He cut from like 2 1/2 packs a day to less than one by using various devices like hiding them in the car. Once down to less than a pack he then had a decent chance of giving it up altogether. Took a couple of years overall.

                  Vanessa It's like professional athletes who should not have sex the day before a game(not sure it is true,however).

                  I don't know any pro athletes but I've never heard of a high school or college guy that I knew who practiced it. I think it relaxes me.

                    youdontknowme But limiting intercourse itself - only realistic after all those avenues have already been explored.

                    It's not about population decrease, but motivate people for marriage, more responsibility, etc.

                    Jonas Eeek! Do you think over-population or farming insufficiency could ever lead to a literal governmental clamp down on sexual activity?

                    if the government can justify it well, then yes

                    Avery Hmm. Not wearing a mask is perfectly obvious and makes enforcement easy.

                    yes, but if the police were empowered by the government to control chastity belts, it would be the same system, it just needs social acceptance.

                    youdontknowme

                    the point is very simple. it is also not a question of whether we should equate masks with chastity belts. it is about the fact that the government could decide something that we have to obey and because the majority perceive that as the right thing to do. if the same would be the case with chastity belts, it can also work. Let me explain it like this: how many people do you know who wore masks before corona? I almost nobody. how many do you know who wear a belt? almost nobody. if the state makes it compulsory, that would be different

                      Angelina yes, but if the police were empowered by the government to control chastity belts, it would be the same system, it just needs social acceptance.

                      Methinks social acceptance will never happen. Most men will never accept any law which interferes with their ability to have sex with women . Any not many women will either. And the justice system isn't big enough to accommodate all the new criminals.

                        Avery Methinks social acceptance will never happen. Most men will never accept any law which interferes with their ability to have sex with women . Any not many women will either. And the justice system isn't big enough to accommodate all the new criminals.

                        State laws could become less important than company policy.

                        If a company decides that fitness is A GOOD THING it can attempt to mandate the wearing of activity trackers. If a company decides that over-population is A BAD THING it could, conceivably (lol) adjust these to also track sexual activity. Then it becomes a matter of: If you can measure it, you can manage it.

                        Social acceptance could become a straight choice between having a job, car, house and entertainment or trying to exist on welfare... which (run by private companies) could also require applicants to wear activity monitors.

                        Dystopia is always just around the corner I'm afraid. It's up to every generation to maintain its hard won rights and freedoms.

                          Jonas That is why there are laws on what companies can ask of their employees. And sometimes laws on what companies can allow their employees to make sure that it is not done on a "voluntary" basis with very prominent scare quotes around the voluntary.