Girls only?

Angelina there are psychological behaviours that can be seen as more feminine or masculine, that could have an influence on the tags and at that point i see it in a more differentiated way.

The problem is that those psychological parameters are a far too continuous to be adequately served by two categories. Plus all the dimensions of gender they are. How you feel about yourself, how you conduct yourself, how you present yourself to others, how others see you... and none of them are as clear-cut as what parts of your body can be locked up, and even that one has some gray areas in certain kinds of intersex people.

youdontknowme

of course, i feel the same way, that's why i'm not a big fan of girls and boys tags. however, at least all topics must remain accessible to everyone and everyone should be allowed to write in every topic.

Angelina this is also not possible. there are rather masculine women and feminine men (from the point of view of character),

Yes,but it sometimes have not much impact.

For example chastity devices;no matter if a woman have a masculine character or not,she would not be able to wear a chastity cage.

Angelina how will you definitively judge whether a topic is only suitable for men or women?

And who would decide it?

youdontknowme

At the opposite of what I answer at @Angelina,there is several topics way less specific;and which can apply to both gender...

Angelina however, at least all topics must remain accessible to everyone and everyone should be allowed to write in every topic.

I agree.

As long as it is respectful,of course.

youdontknowme The problem is that those psychological parameters are a far too continuous to be adequately served by two categories.

We don't talk about genders in general or sexual orientation. But about chastity devices they are manufactured in a female and a male version. Anyone who doesn't identify itself with one of these genders is very welcome here, but still need to decide for himself what device is the one that fits best for the given anatomy.

Therefore I think female and male would work well as categories and depending on the topic the other genders can easily choose to which topic they feel more related. We can also implement a tag for other genders for their specific aspects, but with regards to chastity devices, it's very strong related to the two ways of manufacturing these devices.

Sara2001 yeah, hence my original point that the clearest male/female distinction, and one very relevant for chastity, is about the parts that are locked. My point here was that anything beyond that is hard to categorize into two clear groups since not everyone is adequately served by traditional views on gender

Vanessa For example chastity devices;no matter if a woman have a masculine character or not,she would not be able to wear a chastity cage.

yes, but a transwoman could. i know that's not what you mean, but i think you understand my problem.

Vanessa And who would decide it?

good question, at most @Laura as last instance

Vanessa As long as it is respectful,of course.

of course

Sara2001 Therefore I think female and male would work well as categories

as you argue, yes, but men might think that they are not wanted at all in women's topics and vice versa. this is not supposed to be the case.

carg Exactly. In my opinion the 'male' and 'female' tags are not about who is allowed to post where, or even with what gender a wearer most closely identifies. It is only about for which type of chastity device (for which organ it is meant), that topic is meant

That's how I see it too, I'm just wondering if everyone is aware of it

Angelina yes, but a transwoman could. i know that's not what you mean, but i think you understand my problem.

That is the problem with using "male" and "female" to refer to anatomy. There are lots of people with penises around who would be very uncomfortable describing themselves as "male" and vice-versa. But anything more specifically geared towards body parts comes off as quite crude.

youdontknowme

right, besides, people could feel left out

youdontknowme That is the problem with using "male" and "female" to refer to anatomy. There are lots of people with penises around who would be very uncomfortable describing themselves as "male" and vice-versa. But anything more specifically geared towards body parts comes off as quite crude.

It looks like we have the same view on this tag topic but we discuss around the right description.
Let not use female and male instead tube and shield as an example.
This is not related how I see or feel myself.

youdontknowme There are lots of people

No, in fact they are very few. They have my respect but they can not dictate the agenda.

Angelina yes, but a transwoman could. i know that's not what you mean, but i think you understand my problem.

Well, if that people uses a female chastity belt they have threads if that people use a male device, have topics too. So, I do not see problem.

Vanessa For example chastity devices;no matter if a woman have a masculine character or not,she would not be able to wear a chastity cage.

Yes. Exactly.

Angelina of course, i feel the same way, that's why i'm not a big fan of girls and boys tags. however, at least all topics must remain accessible to everyone and everyone should be allowed to write in every topic.

I am going to quote myself

Ines
And I am not saying that you can not write, for example in all and every "feminine" thread, but write about female topics. And same than us in the male topics.

Sara2001 Honestly I am fine with man who ask questions in women topics and things like that, but I don't want to read their experiences in these posts.

It is the point. It is not good for anyone mix sometimes valuable information in topics about other devices.

Sara2001 but I don't want to read their experiences in these posts.

not even if you were married to a woman in a belt? if daniel were here now instead of you, it wouldn't be a problem for me if he wrote about you.

Ines Well, if that people uses a female chastity belt they have threads if that people use a male device, have topics too. So, I do not see problem.

the problem is that male and female does not always mean male or female belt/cage, but i agree with you e is a small problem. i just want to point it out

Ines about other devices.

I am not talking about the devices but about the users

Sara2001 Honestly I am fine with man who ask questions in women topics and things like that, but I don't want to read their experiences in these posts.

Some of the guys are entertaining, others can be left alone.

Max9

yes, i agree. as an experiment, i searched the girls tag, i.e. topics that have this tag. i see that at least half of the threads are also suitable for men.

Sara2001 with regards to chastity devices, it's very strong related to the two ways of manufacturing these devices.

Right.

Angelina yes, but a transwoman could. i know that's not what you mean, but i think you understand my problem.

If men and women are welcomed in every topics,there would be no problem.

Angelina men might think that they are not wanted at all in women's topics and vice versa. this is not supposed to be the case.

I agree.

Joh Let not use female and male instead tube and shield as an example.

Not a bad idea.

Ines Well, if that people uses a female chastity belt they have threads if that people use a male device, have topics too. So, I do not see problem.

There would be one if someone who identify as a woman but wear a chastity cage want to post here.She may feel unwelcomed in women topics,as she wears a cage,and unwelcomed in men topics,as she's a woman(even if not physically).

Max9 Or we create a second topic each about the same discussions for the boys.

I don't like it much;it would separate too much men/women here and split the community of the board.

Personally,as long as everyone respect each other and the subject of the talks,I've no problem about having both genders discussing in the same topic.

So when we don't want to create a second board for the boys, then we only have 5 options left:

• We don't care about the topics
• We want to make the forum female only in core topics
• We add a boy tag / remove a girl tag from the core boards
• We only care about the tags when we feel it makes sense to do so
• We contribute in every topic but keep female tagged boards female related.

I believe 3, maybe in combination with 5 would be the best to clsrify the belongings without splitting up the community.

I mean, all options would be fine, also if the boys don't be allowed to contribute equally like the girls ... I mean, it was originally a gils forum and we kinda settled here, so ... a Völkerwanderung / migration boom of course changes the community a bit because now here are different citizens ...

Max9

We've discussed it before creating the board and agreed it should be opened to men too.

If we limit how much they can participate,it does not fit to the original idea.