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Ines I think I am not a slut

Please don't say things like that. Everyone knows that.

curious The more your own values deviate from what is considered normal in the overall society, the more difficult it becomes to actually adhere to those values and the more extreme measures to protect the values will be necessary. Hence a strict belt regime is the reaction to a society that is pushing for liberal sex.

Certainly, it is more difficult. I have described in detail some steps I have taken to help out like showering in a public place and putting on a belt when I have a weak period at night. And I have talked about the people I run against from Brigham Young University and Liberty where they have taken steps to teach good values and isolate themselves from general society. But they don't wear belts.

Never said it was easy.

Ines Secondly, I believe most of girls, muslim or not, would touch theirselves if do not wear a belt.

We will never resolve this disagreement. In countries where what women wear out of the house is controlled by their religious beliefs and people stop to pray five times a day, I don't know. I bet the number is substantially less.

Avery Please don't say things like that. Everyone knows that.

Yes, do not worry, I mean that I believe in these values, they are not forced in my, and however, I prefer do not test my weakness.
You and @Jen are different.

Ines I prefer do not test my weakness.

It is good to know what you are capable of. Overestimating yourself can quickly become a boomerang for you.
But that doesn't mean that you can't work on expanding your limits. You don't do that in sport either.

Ines I prefer do not test my weakness.

You give me too much credit sometimes. I keep the belt handy to help me when things get tough.

Avery For me it looks like your belt is similar to a seatbelt. The best is you never need it but in an emergency it helps you.

Joh For me it looks like your belt is similar to a seatbelt. The best is you never need it but in an emergency it helps you.

True.

I think I'll just stick to giving my parents chocolates.

Maija So you will then have only the chain instead of the block piece when you are with Anna, will you? Maybe will the connecting chains to the bra removed as well.
Will your sister also get some relief over the holidays?

Max9 what's the matter? Are you ok?

Appreciate your response.

Amira if it is going to be a mistake then I always can step back out of it. Thank you for genuinely worrying!

because tomorrow is christmas (and i hope you're still reading this) a little tip: don't promise your parents to stay chaste until next christmas, but say this: " i promise to try everything to stay chaste until next christmas and i'm sure If you support me, I have a good chance"

Avery
But there is one major difference:
Your values are far less strict than Amira`s. For you, if you fail you start over and just go on.
For her even one slip-up is completely unacceptable. If you have a zero tolerance for failure, of course you will have to take far more extreme measures to ensure that.

curious For you, if you fail you start over and just go on.
For her even one slip-up is completely unacceptable.

And what would she then do if she had a failure? She would start over as well. If she were still living in Syria would she "take far more extreme measures" to protect herself? No. Muslim girls do not wear chastity belts, at least I've never heard that they do. But millions of them succeed without belts. It is their religion. They think that is what they should do.

Avery She would start over as well.

Agree.

Avery But millions of them succeed without belts.

I agree, but here there are some rumours:
Well, exist some stories about them in high class people. A lot of them stay seasons in Marbella, a touristic village. Some stories are heard.
However strict genre segregation in those civilizations, make a huge difference too.

Avery She would start over as well.

Agree.

Avery But millions of them succeed without belts.

I agree, but here there are some rumours:
Well, exist some stories about them in high class people. A lot of them stay seasons in Marbella, a touristic village. Some stories are heard.
However strict genre segregation in those civilizations, make a huge difference too.

Ines However strict genre segregation in those civilizations, make a huge difference too.

I completely agree with you here. I've been pretty open about my own experiences, not wearing sexy clothes, not going to bars, showering in a place where others are present, taking cold showers when needed. One has to make some adjustments. The Muslims make adjustments, as you point out, and it seems that many succeed. And it has been tried in the US with the Mormons and Brigham Young University and the Baptists and Liberty University without such strict gender separation. So I just object when someone like @curious says some girl he doesn't even know must wear a belt even if she's a Muslim.