Angelina i don't really understand the discussion. when you rent a flat or a house, the landlord usually asks for proof of income to check that you earn enough money to finance the flat, is that different anywhere else?
In the US, at least where I am, they ask for proof of income, proof of who you are, a security deposit in case you skip out or cause damages and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account, to make sure the payment is good.
Was it the effect you hoped for,or a side-effect?
If it is an unexpected side effect,do you like it or not?
Probably,yes.
In your case,would it not be the case?
Christine She did, but keeps changing her mind
Any chance she changes her mind again and agree you would not have to wear it after you move out?
Christine She doesn't hear me.
Too bad!
Christine I don't care.
So no problem,you could stop wearing it right after you move out,anyway.
Angelina get a job, your own flat and live in freedom again.
Harder to do than to say.
Avery they ask for proof of income, proof of who you are, a security deposit in case you skip out or cause damages and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account
Similar in France,except we can pay the first month from our account.
Vanessa Similar in France,except we can pay the first month from our account.
I didn't realize you were in France. No wonder you mentioned my few French phrases, I looked you up in the intro thread. You've been here a long time, since the beginning. I only just started reading some of the intros.
carg I was just surprised that Laura said that a landlord could also check your credit score.
In my experience, he only does this if there is a later purchase option for the property.
Vanessa Probably,yes.
sounds scary, i think i would have "quit" my father at the age of 40 at the latest
Vanessa In your case,would it not be the case?
probably not, but it would probably end at some point anyway. the probability of my father living longer than me is very low, but i think we would find a solution at some point.
Vanessa Harder to do than to say.
of course, but the question is what is sexual freedom worth?
Angelina at the moment you seem very unhappy
I just feel myself stuck forever.
Angelina o go ahead. get a job, your own flat and live in freedom again
Sounds like a plan.
Vanessa Any chance she changes her mind again and agree you would not have to wear it after you move out?
I doubt, but if she wishes she should try wearing herself first.
Vanessa you could stop wearing it right after you move out
Immediately.
Rina I think there are many services you can use to get boost in credit score
And more money.
then do whatever you can do. in case of emergency, do a new apprenticeship or study or look for a job for the transition, talk to your mother about your future and that you are unhappy with the current situation. i strongly believe that you can do all this, but you have to want it and start as soon as possible. 
Angelina at the age of 40 at the latest
Why at 40?
I would still have the possibility to stop wearing it,but with the same consequences.
Angelina probably not, but it would probably end at some point anyway.
Your father would be bit less strict than my parents,so,about it.
Angelina of course, but the question is what is sexual freedom worth?
I meant it can be hard for her,especially to get a long term job.
Christine I just feel myself stuck forever.
Understandable,but you know you would be free when you get a good job,or be married again.
Are you dating someone,presently?
Christine she should try wearing herself first.
Do you think she would?
And if she does it,would you accept to keep wearing it too?
Angelina talk to your mother about your future and that you are unhappy with the current situation
I think she knows it,and don't care...
Vanessa Why at 40?
it seems appropriate to me, i don't have an exact reason, but i think everyone needs at least one perspective
Vanessa Your father would be bit less strict than my parents,so,about it.
that was more related to the fact that for biological reasons my chastity would end at some point
Vanessa I meant it can be hard for her,especially to get a long term job.
That's what I mean too, that's why I say it's a matter of balance.
Vanessa I think she knows it,and don't care...
she can argue against it but i don't think it's appropriate for a mother and keyholder not to care.
Angelina talk to your mother about your future and that you are unhappy with the current situation
I did and how I know her opinion.
Vanessa Are you dating someone,presently?
Yes and I'm in active search.
Vanessa Do you think she would?
Ofc not. But it would be a good argument.
Vanessa And if she does it,would you accept to keep wearing it too?
As a small revenge.
Was it the effect you hoped for,or a side-effect?
If it is an unexpected side effect,do you like it or not?
I certainly wanted to be more active and so the fact that the chastity/frustration is fuelling this is great. I also wanted to do more around the house.
Compliance was not really the aim as we don't really have a dom/sub relationship, however, I do have a problem with authority and so it is very, very, good for me to do what I am told... especially by someone whom I love and trust.
I do feel her pain as her situation is similar to mine
Angelina it seems appropriate to me, i don't have an exact reason, but i think everyone needs at least one perspective
Mine is when married.
Angelina That's what I mean too, that's why I say it's a matter of balance.
I don't think it is relevant if she has no job...
Not much choice in this case.
Angelina she can argue against it but i don't think it's appropriate for a mother and keyholder not to care.
I agree,but it seems it the case for her...
Christine Yes and I'm in active search.
You're dating someone and search for someone else?
Christine Ofc not. But it would be a good argument.
Maybe if you get enough good arguments you could have some impact on your situation.
So a pleasant side-effect,even if unexpected at first.
Hi!
Still dating your girlfriend?
