Laura There should be no age restrictions

i see it a little differently, i don't think the belt should be a lifelong measure at worst

    Angelina but i think she must have known from the beginning that it can change if you move out, right?

    She did, but keeps changing her mind.

    Vanessa What else?

    Credit score.

    Vanessa Finding you own place?

    Yes, in a good place.

    Vanessa Can you give your opinion,or is it useless?

    She doesn't hear me.

    Vanessa Breaking your relationship with her/your family.

    I don't care.

    Vanessa What do you think she would decide?

    Will get used to my decision.

      Christine She doesn't hear me.

      Christine I don't care.

      Christine Will get used to my decision.

      Hey look after yourself👋 if you need a break make it happen. If it's time to stop I'll cheer you for stopping

      Christine Credit score.

      I know credit score (or credit rating) as the trustworthiness for getting a loan, like when you want to buy a house they want to check if you're likely to be paying it off. Normally if you would rent a small apartment, or even a room with a landlord/-lady, it wouldn't be checked, would it? I don't think they are even allowed to here, only banks can.
      Or do you mean you built up debt on a credit card and first need to pay that off? Perhaps not, since the solution for that would also be trying to get a better paying job, although it will take longer then until you can move out.

        Christine She did, but keeps changing her mind.

        not good, in general key holders should not change their mind too often. i really hope things will get better for you soon, at the moment you seem very unhappy 🙁

        Christine Will get used to my decision.

        if she gets used to it, she will probably be able to forgive you, so go ahead. get a job, your own flat and live in freedom again. 🙂

        bonzibuddy why is Enderman expand dong

        because tree

          carg Normally if you would rent a small apartment, or even a room with a landlord/-lady, it wouldn't be checked, would it?

          It would in the US

            Laura It would in the US

            They even ask for a W-2 (proof of income for tax purposes).

            Laura It would in the US

            Hmm, I would consider it a big invasion of my privacy if just anyone could check the health of my finances at any time.
            But I certainly believe that privacy legislation is stronger in (western?) Europe than in the US.
            If the Proof of Income only shows that you have a high-enough regular income, and not exactly how much, that would feel a bit different for me, also because if it is asked, I can still decide if I want to share that info, and with whom. That would seem more balanced between my privacy and their need for financial security.

              carg

              i don't really understand the discussion. when you rent a flat or a house, the landlord usually asks for proof of income to check that you earn enough money to finance the flat, is that different anywhere else?

                Angelina i don't really understand the discussion. when you rent a flat or a house, the landlord usually asks for proof of income to check that you earn enough money to finance the flat, is that different anywhere else?

                In the US, at least where I am, they ask for proof of income, proof of who you are, a security deposit in case you skip out or cause damages and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account, to make sure the payment is good.

                  Avery and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account, to make sure the payment is good.

                  ok, i don't know that, at least not in every case. the other criteria are quite similar in germany, mostly you have to pay a deposit of two months rent.

                  Avery

                  Yes, that was as I understood it. I was just surprised that Laura said that a landlord could also check your credit score.

                    Jonas

                    Was it the effect you hoped for,or a side-effect?

                    If it is an unexpected side effect,do you like it or not?

                    Angelina

                    Probably,yes.

                    Angelina

                    In your case,would it not be the case?

                    Christine She did, but keeps changing her mind

                    Any chance she changes her mind again and agree you would not have to wear it after you move out?

                    Christine She doesn't hear me.

                    Too bad!🙁

                    Christine I don't care.

                    So no problem,you could stop wearing it right after you move out,anyway.

                    Angelina get a job, your own flat and live in freedom again. 🙂

                    Harder to do than to say.

                    Avery they ask for proof of income, proof of who you are, a security deposit in case you skip out or cause damages and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account

                    Similar in France,except we can pay the first month from our account.

                      Vanessa Similar in France,except we can pay the first month from our account.

                      I didn't realize you were in France. No wonder you mentioned my few French phrases, I looked you up in the intro thread. You've been here a long time, since the beginning. I only just started reading some of the intros.

                        Avery I didn't realize you were in France. No wonder you mentioned my few French phrases

                        😉

                        Avery You've been here a long time, since the beginning

                        Yes!🙂

                        Christine Credit score.

                        I think there are many services you can use to get boost in credit score, even credit repair service that will help you through recovering your credit score. Try to look into one of them.

                          carg I was just surprised that Laura said that a landlord could also check your credit score.

                          In my experience, he only does this if there is a later purchase option for the property.

                          Vanessa Probably,yes.

                          sounds scary, i think i would have "quit" my father at the age of 40 at the latest

                          Vanessa In your case,would it not be the case?

                          probably not, but it would probably end at some point anyway. the probability of my father living longer than me is very low, but i think we would find a solution at some point.

                          Vanessa Harder to do than to say.

                          of course, but the question is what is sexual freedom worth?

                            Angelina at the moment you seem very unhappy

                            I just feel myself stuck forever.

                            Angelina o go ahead. get a job, your own flat and live in freedom again

                            Sounds like a plan.

                            Vanessa Any chance she changes her mind again and agree you would not have to wear it after you move out?

                            I doubt, but if she wishes she should try wearing herself first.

                            Vanessa you could stop wearing it right after you move out

                            Immediately.

                            Rina I think there are many services you can use to get boost in credit score

                            And more money.

                              Christine I just feel myself stuck forever.

                              Christine Sounds like a plan.

                              then do whatever you can do. in case of emergency, do a new apprenticeship or study or look for a job for the transition, talk to your mother about your future and that you are unhappy with the current situation. i strongly believe that you can do all this, but you have to want it and start as soon as possible. 🙂