Angelina Jonas or will she really have to wait until marriage before having sex again?

that wouldn't really be fair because @Christine stopped after she moved out, so I'm asking for a similar scenario for the mother.

@"Christine removed herself physically from the rules imposed upon her. Her mother can do the same any time by simply refusing to wear her belt, but to do so she would have to break her own rules. Either she accepts she was wrong about chastity, or she wears the belt until marriage. It's checkmate.

Christine Coz she needs sex badly?

Yup. This is the crux of the matter. Chastity belts allow people to overrule or master some of their strongest bodily urges and to instead do what their minds have decided is right in the cold light of day.

I think your mother probably will choose to wear the belt you got her and to stick to her own rules. And I think overall this is the most remarkable turnaround I've read about on this forum!!

    Christine Jonas say she was wrong about the whole thing and ask not to use the belt any more?!

    Coz she needs sex badly?

    This is, of course, the most important reason TO keep her belted.

    Christine Jonas will she really have to wait until marriage before having sex again?

    I hope so.

    Sometimes I'll say to someone, at least partially as a joke but sometimes a little bit seriously, "perhaps you have to accept that you really do deserve to be belted." This is a bit of circular logic to me sometimes -- "clearly you are locked in a belt, therefore the evidence says you belong there" -- but in the case of your mother, she deserves to be belted and she deserved to remain locked until marriage and the keys handed over to the custody of her spouse.

    Christine Angelina what would be a scenario for your mother where you would say "now we are in the clear and you don't need it anymore"?

    Why would I say it? What's wrong with her continuing to wear it?

    Nothing at all. Your mother strongly believes that unmarried girls must wear the belt and stay chaste. She is unmarried and we know she has had sex in the past. It's best that she remain under control.

      Christine Why would I say it? What's wrong with her continuing to wear it?

      let me put it this way, you both start out under different circumstances. you wore the belt for completely different reasons than your mother does now. i understand that you want her to feel some of her own medicine, but how far should that actually go?

      Jonas Her mother can do the same any time by simply refusing to wear her belt, but to do so she would have to break her own rules.

      Not quite, with @Christine it was also about the fact that she lived with her mother and was financially dependent on her until a few months ago, that's what I mean by different conditions. @Christine didn't wear the belt after she moved out, is there a comparable scenario with her mother?

        Jonas Either she accepts she was wrong about chastity, or she wears the belt until marriage

        But she was not wrong, it works as it should.

        Jonas I think your mother probably will choose to wear the belt

        She already did. Otherwise she wouldn't wear it.

        Saintprudence This is, of course, the most important reason TO keep her belted.

        I agree. And if she asks for break for this purpose, she will be denied.

        Saintprudence and the keys handed over to the custody of her spouse

        I told her.

        Saintprudence Your mother strongly believes that unmarried girls must wear the belt and stay chaste

        That's why she didn't argue about the belt.

        Saintprudence She is unmarried and we know she has had sex in the past

        Not so in the past because me, but very recently. And it made me angry.

        Renita You don't do the same.

        It might be an option.

        Angelina i understand that you want her to feel some of her own medicine

        No I don't. I really care about her chastity now.

          Christine I really care about her chastity now

          Do you define 'chastity' as not having sex or not having any orgasm at all (so no masturbation either)?
          Somewhere in this forum I believe someone defined the difference for belts as 'abstinence belt' vs 'chastity belt'.

            curious Do you define 'chastity' as not having sex or not having any orgasm at all (so no masturbation either)?
            Somewhere in this forum I believe someone defined the difference for belts as 'abstinence belt' vs 'chastity belt'.

            I still don't really understand this distinction. If you are free to masturbate then a partner is free to give you an orgasm in the same way (and often others). To me, non penetrative sex is still a form of sex.

            Angelina . @Christine didn't wear the belt after she moved out, is there a comparable scenario with her mother?

            I don't think so because wherever her mother goes, the rules follow her, ...because they are her rules!! 😀

            Christine She already did. Otherwise she wouldn't wear it.

            Is she happy with the way things have gone? Will you ask her to go 24/7 at some point? (As you were).

            Christine I really care about her chastity now.

            Renita You don't do the same.

            If you care about chastity, then I think @Renita is right, you should at least consider living by the same rules.

              Christine No I don't. I really care about her chastity now.

              The one does not exclude the other. My father also takes care of my chastity very well, the question is why this chastity came into play? With your mother only because she kept you in the belt

              Jonas If you are free to masturbate then a partner is free to give you an orgasm in the same way (and often others).

              That is not true, let's assume that I "only" not allowed to have sex. I could then be alone in my bed and masturbate, but my partner couldn't be with me. Alone or with someone else is the decisive difference

              Jonas I don't think so because wherever her mother goes, the rules follow her, ...because they are her rules!! 😀

              Well, the rules never seem to have been particularly clear, because it doesn't seem like it hadn't been a big problem for @Christine not to wear the belt after she has moved out

                Jonas If you are free to masturbate then a partner is free to give you an orgasm in the same way (and often others

                But you are not free to masturbate near your partner.

                curious Do you define 'chastity' as not having sex or not having any orgasm at all (so no masturbation either)?

                Former.

                Jonas To me, non penetrative sex is still a form of sex.

                To me, too. That's why she has the secondary shield.

                Jonas Is she happy with the way things have gone?

                I doubt.

                Jonas Will you ask her to go 24/7 at some point?

                No, it's not my goal.

                Jonas you should at least consider living by the same rules.

                I don't see a way now.

                Angelina the question is why this chastity came into play?

                Coz she was interested in chastity belts in the first place.

                  Christine Jonas Is she happy with the way things have gone?

                  I doubt

                  Belted girls rarely are once the key leaves their hands. And I’m sure she’d prefer to see you kept secure yourself.

                  Christine curious Do you define 'chastity' as not having sex or not having any orgasm at all (so no masturbation either)?

                  Former.

                  Jonas To me, non penetrative sex is still a form of sex.

                  To me, too. That's why she has the secondary shield.

                  So you technically don’t object to her masturbating, but it’s still not permitted while she’s belted.

                  Christine Jonas you should at least consider living by the same rules.

                  I don't see a way now.

                  You could always request to be given your belt back 🙂. As she has said, she’ll be happy to return it if it’s firmly locked in place!

                    Please forgive me, Christine, I do occasionally enjoy my fun at your expense!

                    Christine Jonas you should at least consider living by the same rules.

                    I don't see a way now.

                    You'd just need to ask to wear your belt again as @Saintprudence says. Then do a mutual key exchange, or put both keys into the locker. You could even set up a pass code that each of you only knows half of!! 🤔

                    Anyway, I think you see yourself as an external party applying your mother's own beliefs to her. But you also seem increasingly to share and agree with these beliefs! If you do end up thinking chastity is important, then the rules should apply to you too.

                    Thanks for answering all my questions. Sorry to be so nosy. Am fascinated by the switch-around that's taken place here.

                      Renita Christine's problem is that her mother has kept custody of her old chastity belt. She's told her that the only way she returns the belt to Christine's possession is around her waist and firmly locked. If she had time with the belt on her own, she might be able to alter it to escape. Her mother is wise not to allow her access to it. Even if she's not wearing it now, the day may come for it again.

                        Saintprudence
                        The difference is, that @Christine only wants to enforce no sex while her mother did not allow any masturbation either and kept her in complete chastity, not only sexual abstinence.

                          Saintprudence Staying belted is the easiest thing in the world. Just step into it and close the lock. It’s everything else that’s hard!

                          hihi, that's even true, only the time afterwards is difficult 😂

                          curious The difference is, that @Christine only wants to enforce no sex while her mother did not allow any masturbation either and kept her in complete chastity, not only sexual abstinence.

                          right and i wonder if @Christine would agree to wear the belt again for reasons of fairness if the mother "only" does not allow sex but does allow masturbation

                            Saintprudence She's told her that the only way she returns the belt to Christine's possession is around her waist and firmly locked.

                            Does she still require it?

                              Angelina if the mother "only" does not allow sex but does allow masturbation

                              I don't think that's gonna happen. Her mother seemed very firm about not permitting any orgasms, not just as a side effect of the belt but as one of the main purposes. So once @Christine is belted again, it probably means complete chastity.
                              I am more surprised, that Christine is not enforcing the same rule for her mother but rather limits the belt to the no sex aspect.