Single again chastity

Kaja

Thank you all. You recapitulated what I said in past in more noble words.

Christine

Jonas I wonder if your mother projected her own need for a chastity belt onto you?

Sure thing now.

Jonas I wonder if any other parents who write here do the same?

Unless they already wear.

curious Why should your aunt make a difference and keep you locked while your mother is let out?

Coz they are sisters.

Angelina but then you are now at the same point of double standards that your mother had before.

I never cared about double standards.

Angelina do you think that would happen?

I think, it was the whole idea of that offer.

Angelina but do you think if your aunt was the key holder for both of you, that your mother would get more freedom than you?

Mom can persuade aunt to let her out for a while.

curious

Christine
If different treatment is your concearn but you otherwise like the idea, why don't you talk to your aunt and make it a condition that the rules and how strictly they enforced must be 100% the same for you and your mother. Nobody should have an advantage.
If your aunt agrees to that - preferably in writing - all is good. Isn't it?

Angelina

Christine I never cared about double standards.

unfortunately, i think this is very wrong, but it seems to be the same thing your mother has been doing for the last few years.

Christine Mom can persuade aunt to let her out for a while.

yes, but you could too, if then the rules have to be the same for both of you and your aunt has to enforce them.

Owl

Christine Mom can persuade aunt to let her out for a while.

If you fear that kind of "social engineering", just a technical interjection: How adding unique plastic seals signed by you to her belt? So Aunt is keyholder, but you'd have much higher certainty to learn about any potential, extraordinary breaks.

It think this can be argued for. Especially since some conflict of interest on her side would only be human.

Christine

Angelina nd your aunt has to enforce them

And change her mind later.

Owl How adding unique plastic seals signed by you to her belt? So Aunt is keyholder, but you'd have much higher certainty to learn about any potential, extraordinary breaks.

What's a difference from emergency key? Keyholder should be able to let you out at any time.

curious

Angelina I never cared about double standards

But you should. Double standards are wrong on an ethical level. I know your mother did a poor job of being a role model in that regard, but once you have realised this, it is for you to become better and do the right thing than rather repeat the same unethical behaviour.

curious

Christine What's a difference from emergency key? Keyholder should be able to let you out at any time.

The difference would be that your aunt cannot let out your mother without you knowing it. So secretly having different rules preferential to your mum will not be possible then. So you can be confident that she will honour the agreement of same rules and freedoms (or actually the degree of enforced chastity) and enter into that contract with your aunt with confidence that it 2ill be fair and equal.

Angelina

Christine And change her mind later.

it can happen, but if you think it's not fair and your aunt would prefer your mother, you can always cancel the deal and stop using the belt again. unlike a year ago, you hold all the cards yourself.

curious But you should. Double standards are wrong on an ethical level. I know your mother did a poor job of being a role model in that regard, but once you have realised this, it is for you to become better and do the right thing than rather repeat the same unethical behaviour.

why am I quoted when @Christine wrote this? 😂

Joh

Christine And change her mind later.

If don't trust your aunt make no deal with her.

Owl

Christine What's a difference from emergency key? Keyholder should be able to let you out at any time.

curious already answered for me (thx).

Joh If don't trust your aunt make no deal with her.

I'd add that trust often is not a binary of absolute trust vs absolute mistrust, no matter the circumstance. (For the record, Joh, not that I'm saying that's what you claimed.) Yet, I support the general line of reasoning. Either I'd find rules and measures that gives me sufficient trust in the arrangement (particularly keyholder(s)), or I wouldn't consent to it.

Generally, I also could imagine small steps to learn about a certain person. How they behave and handle situations. Like trial periods. For instance, letting them bear the responsibility for 1 single day, or 1 day per week, while the rest of time stays the current situation. When I got a bad feeling at some time, I'd investigate about the reason; and if no reasonable explanation I'd refrain to go further for a time, rather roll back.

Joh

Owl For the record, Joh, not that I'm saying that's what you claimed.

Everyone has to find out for themselves whether they trust someone. That was the content of my statement.
If there are concerns, I advise you to have some kind of protection so that you can always get out of the situation.

Angelina

Owl Generally, I also could imagine small steps to learn about a certain person. How they behave and handle situations. Like trial periods. For instance, letting them bear the responsibility for 1 single day, or 1 day per wee

sorry, this can work for small things, but we are talking about giving up control of one's sexuality, there has to be trust, there has to be 100% trust and if there is not 100% trust, then you should not give the key to that person.

Owl

Angelina

I was talking about Christine evaluating the possibility of her Aunt keyholding her mother's belt. (Or part-time holding as trial / intermediate solution). Which could be an improvement to entangle this unwholesome situation between Christine's mother and C. (The mutual mistrust and all that stuff between those two going on for so long now.)

How Christine wants to handle her own chastity is a second question. If I was involved, I'd see unraveling the relationship dynamics between mother and daughter as the primary issue.

Angelina

Owl . (The mutual mistrust and all that stuff between those two going on for so long now.)

i agree here, there really is a problem. but i think before you think about both in the belt and keys to the aunt, you should work on these problems, otherwise it won't work because there will always be mistrust.

Christine

I didn't write for a while coz I've lost my credentials to this site. Remembered today.
Not many updates. Mom wears her belt all the time and she seems get used to it well.
And I don't wear one.

curious

Christine
What about the keyholdering offer for both of you? And news on that front?
Do you still allow your mom to have breaks for private time or have you progressed her to the same strict "no masturbation" rules you had before?

Angelina

Christine Mom wears her belt all the time and she seems get used to it well.

i still think it would be good if both or neither of you wear a belt, anything else is kind of a double standard
PS: Nice, you are back 😉

Greatcornbow

Christine Who keeps your mom's keys?

Christine

curious What about the keyholdering offer for both of you?

I declined.

curious Do you still allow your mom to have breaks for private time or have you progressed her to the same strict "no masturbation" rules you had before?

Same rules as before, since I don't care.

Angelina PS: Nice, you are back

Thank you.

Angelina

Christine Same rules as before, since I don't care.

i don't care is unfortunately the worst thing a keyholder can do, you have a responsibility!

Christine

Angelina you have a responsibility

I don't care about masturbation.

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