carg Perhaps you could take an internet course or follow evening classes, so you could get qualifications for a better paid job?

It's not only about a job.

Vanessa Any chance it becomes better soon?

idk

Vanessa My-steel(I don't remember,sorry)?

Yes, my-steel.

Vanessa But without success,I guess.

ofc

Vanessa Hos does she decide which one you wear?

Depending on the weather and amount of clothes.

Vanessa No consequences,if you live on your own?

Like what?

Angelina and try to stay in contact with your mother anyway

It will be up to her.

                  Christine It will be up to her.

                  well, if she defines your relationship only by the belt, it will be hard, but i think she must have known from the beginning that it can change if you move out, right?

                      carg I just had the impression that for Christine's mother the marriage thing is exceptionally important

                      Maybe yes.

                      I know the rules for my chastity belt,but I can marry when I want.

                      carg Of course release from the chastity devices is a stimulus by itself

                      I confirm.

                      Jonas When frustrated and fighting the belt I can be grumpy and short-tempered, but when I accept the frustration and the chastity and the reasons for it, I become more peaceful and, well, compliant - towards my partner at least.

                      Which is the most frequent?

                      Christine It's not only about a job.

                      What else?

                      Finding you own place?

                      Christine Depending on the weather and amount of clothes.

                      Can you give your opinion,or is it useless?

                      Christine Like what?

                      Breaking your relationship with her/your family.

                      Christine It will be up to her.

                      What do you think she would decide?

                                      Vanessa Jonas When frustrated and fighting the belt I can be grumpy and short-tempered, but when I accept the frustration and the chastity and the reasons for it, I become more peaceful and, well, compliant - towards my partner at least.

                                      Which is the most frequent?

                                      Well, what I'm finding is that right now I am kinda desperate for activities. So if someone suggests cleaning up, repairs, laundry whatever, I'll do it simply to keep myself distracted from all the sexual frustration I'm feeling. Effectively this means I'm doing what I'm told (or at least what my partner would like) far more often. Conversely, when fighting and grumpy I'm left stewing in my own juices which is very uncomfortable. So, overall I'd say it's 20:80 fighting/compliant but heading towards more compliance. I could only ever trust my wife such a huge degree of control over me!

                                          Vanessa I know the rules for my chastity belt,but I can marry when I want.

                                          if there was no wedding in sight, do you think you would still have to wear the belt at 50?

                                              Angelina do you think you would still have to wear the belt at 50?

                                              There should be no age restrictions

                                                  Laura There should be no age restrictions

                                                  i see it a little differently, i don't think the belt should be a lifelong measure at worst

                                                      Angelina but i think she must have known from the beginning that it can change if you move out, right?

                                                      She did, but keeps changing her mind.

                                                      Vanessa What else?

                                                      Credit score.

                                                      Vanessa Finding you own place?

                                                      Yes, in a good place.

                                                      Vanessa Can you give your opinion,or is it useless?

                                                      She doesn't hear me.

                                                      Vanessa Breaking your relationship with her/your family.

                                                      I don't care.

                                                      Vanessa What do you think she would decide?

                                                      Will get used to my decision.

                                                                    Christine She doesn't hear me.

                                                                    Christine I don't care.

                                                                    Christine Will get used to my decision.

                                                                    Hey look after yourself👋 if you need a break make it happen. If it's time to stop I'll cheer you for stopping

                                                                          Christine Credit score.

                                                                          I know credit score (or credit rating) as the trustworthiness for getting a loan, like when you want to buy a house they want to check if you're likely to be paying it off. Normally if you would rent a small apartment, or even a room with a landlord/-lady, it wouldn't be checked, would it? I don't think they are even allowed to here, only banks can.
                                                                          Or do you mean you built up debt on a credit card and first need to pay that off? Perhaps not, since the solution for that would also be trying to get a better paying job, although it will take longer then until you can move out.

                                                                              Christine She did, but keeps changing her mind.

                                                                              not good, in general key holders should not change their mind too often. i really hope things will get better for you soon, at the moment you seem very unhappy 🙁

                                                                              Christine Will get used to my decision.

                                                                              if she gets used to it, she will probably be able to forgive you, so go ahead. get a job, your own flat and live in freedom again. 🙂

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                                                                              because tree

                                                                                      carg Normally if you would rent a small apartment, or even a room with a landlord/-lady, it wouldn't be checked, would it?

                                                                                      It would in the US

                                                                                          Laura It would in the US

                                                                                          They even ask for a W-2 (proof of income for tax purposes).

                                                                                            Laura It would in the US

                                                                                            Hmm, I would consider it a big invasion of my privacy if just anyone could check the health of my finances at any time.
                                                                                            But I certainly believe that privacy legislation is stronger in (western?) Europe than in the US.
                                                                                            If the Proof of Income only shows that you have a high-enough regular income, and not exactly how much, that would feel a bit different for me, also because if it is asked, I can still decide if I want to share that info, and with whom. That would seem more balanced between my privacy and their need for financial security.

                                                                                                carg

                                                                                                i don't really understand the discussion. when you rent a flat or a house, the landlord usually asks for proof of income to check that you earn enough money to finance the flat, is that different anywhere else?

                                                                                                    Angelina i don't really understand the discussion. when you rent a flat or a house, the landlord usually asks for proof of income to check that you earn enough money to finance the flat, is that different anywhere else?

                                                                                                    In the US, at least where I am, they ask for proof of income, proof of who you are, a security deposit in case you skip out or cause damages and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account, to make sure the payment is good.

                                                                                                        Avery and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account, to make sure the payment is good.

                                                                                                        ok, i don't know that, at least not in every case. the other criteria are quite similar in germany, mostly you have to pay a deposit of two months rent.

                                                                                                          Avery

                                                                                                          Yes, that was as I understood it. I was just surprised that Laura said that a landlord could also check your credit score.

                                                                                                              Jonas

                                                                                                              Was it the effect you hoped for,or a side-effect?

                                                                                                              If it is an unexpected side effect,do you like it or not?

                                                                                                              Angelina

                                                                                                              Probably,yes.

                                                                                                              Angelina

                                                                                                              In your case,would it not be the case?

                                                                                                              Christine She did, but keeps changing her mind

                                                                                                              Any chance she changes her mind again and agree you would not have to wear it after you move out?

                                                                                                              Christine She doesn't hear me.

                                                                                                              Too bad!🙁

                                                                                                              Christine I don't care.

                                                                                                              So no problem,you could stop wearing it right after you move out,anyway.

                                                                                                              Angelina get a job, your own flat and live in freedom again. 🙂

                                                                                                              Harder to do than to say.

                                                                                                              Avery they ask for proof of income, proof of who you are, a security deposit in case you skip out or cause damages and the first payment must be drawn on a bank, not on your personal account

                                                                                                              Similar in France,except we can pay the first month from our account.