Jonas Whole disparity between patents and young adults on here seems to rely on some mythical notion that maturity and wisdom naturally come with age.

It's not wisdom or maturity. The olds just don't have anything special worth protecting any more. My chastity is precious.

    Jonas Avery Whole disparity between patents and young adults on here seems to rely on some mythical notion that maturity and wisdom naturally come with age.

    I just don't see it myself. I see adults making massive mistakes all over the place.

    Also the fact that sex drive tends to go down with age and thus it is easier to practice deviceless chastity. Of course that only gets you so far - plenty of old people still crave sex so much they are willing to do dangerous and/or immoral stuff, whether it be The Villages in Florida (a 55+ community) having the highest STI prevalence in the state or people like Epstein and friends.

    bdsamm I am not really understanding the arguments here. Christine is a 25 year old adult woman in the United States and unless she is incapacited for some reason she is capable of living on her own and making her own decisions. Maybe Mother will want her to wear a belt for Mother's comfort but, still up to Christine.

    If she is living at her Mothers and is going to be evicted there are plenty of organizations that will intervene since she has been living there for some time and can't just be summarily kicked out.

    Now in my mind there are several good reasons for her to wear a belt. Sexual Assault, bad Date, chance of too much alcohol and possibly she can be convinced of that by cooler heads. If she was nearby I would try.

    As to Mother wearing a belt, what does that have to do with anything in this case?

    I'm not familiar with the case you refer to. I was addressing @Jonas points about adults forcing minors into belts.

      Avery In some cases the parents should be handed over to the police and they keep the keys.

      Just for a bit of lightheartedness among this gruesome matter:

      Prisons probably do not like it when the inmates carry keys or visitors bring keys in.

      (I know, realistically the devices would come off during intake in one way or another, but one can dream about having those who forced chastity belts onto the unwilling be locked up themselves in more ways than one, can we not?)

        Avery Sorry Avery. I was just addressing the thread in general. I will say though that from my own personal experience, Parents have a lot of responsibility for minor children in the US. Parents are expected to exert consideral control of their minor children and if the fail, may have financial risk. Do they have the right to lock metal underwear on them? Probably not. But if coercion is used with reward that are viewed favorablly it is probably legal. I bought my children cars and they were pretty cooperative on most issues. (No metal underwear involved.)

          bdsamm Do they have the right to lock metal underwear on them? Probably not.

          It'd be hard (for me, anyway) to codify what actions toward your children are legal and not, but it seems parents can dictate behaviors but not the physical bodies of their children. You can't beat them or chain them up or, I think, lock them up in a chastity cage. Nor, I think, can you watch your daughter shower, which has been described here, though not recently, as part of the chastity guarding process. But you can ground her if you catch her pleasuring herself. So maybe there's a line there, control behaviors but hands off the physical person.

            Avery My daughter took on the responsibility of watering the neighbors plants while they wer e on vacation. When they came home their house had been robbed and their Porsch stolen. On questioning by the police, my daughter admitted she let her boyfriend in the house and went with him in the Porsch. In fact she threw some of the ladies jewelery out of the window as they drove. I did not know whe had even left my house. She took the screen off a bedroom window and crawled out there. I found that later.

            The lawyer said since she was a "step" daughter, I had no liability in the matter. I did ask how I could prevent such a thing. Could I chain here in her room? (Just asking) He was pretty vague but that under the circumstances I probably could. I think if there is concern about "risky behavior" that a parent could take some pretty strong measures to stop it.

              bdsamm Could I chain here in her room? (Just asking) He was pretty vague but that under the circumstances I probably could. I think if there is concern about "risky behavior" that a parent could take some pretty strong measures to stop it.

              I wonder if it could depend on where in the country you live. Massachusetts, where I live, is very liberal (Kennedys, Elizabeth Warren) and politically correct. If you literally chained her here I would bet Channel 7 news would descend on you, child services, maybe the cops. I don't know. Sorry you had such a serious problem.

              Jonas And the same goes for all the parents on here. If masturbating is so wrong, then they should wear a belt themselves.

              that's right, i think if parents don't want something and set rules, they should always set a good example, that also applies to things that have nothing to do with chastity.

              Jonas In many cases the parents should be belted and the young adults should be given the key. Lol.

              at least for a limited time i could convince my father to do it haha 😉

              Jen The olds just don't have anything special worth protecting any more. My chastity is precious.

              at least if we are talking about virginity, i agree

              youdontknowme (I know, realistically the devices would come off during intake in one way or another, but one can dream about having those who forced chastity belts onto the unwilling be locked up themselves in more ways than one, can we not?)

              so somehow i imagine my father standing in court because of the thing with me and instead of 2 years in prison, getting 2 years in a chastity belt. somehow i would even like that. 😃

              bdsamm I think if there is concern about "risky behavior" that a parent could take some pretty strong measures to stop it.

              so at least in germany it is not possible for the parents to do something like that. however, the parents can apply to the court to have their daughter committed to a closed clinic or a reformatory or something similar. but there the state has control. so it is possible to have one's own children locked up, but only if it is done under state supervision.

                Angelina that's right, i think if parents don't want something and set rules, they should always set a good example, that also applies to things that have nothing to do with chastity.

                Yeah, but I think it's not just about setting a good example or understanding how a belt feels etc. It's hypocritical and unhealthy for people to apply rules to others that they don't then apply to themselves.

                  Jen The olds just don't have anything special worth protecting any more. My chastity is precious.

                  This is something that I tried to explain when I first posted here. I'm middle aged (read: old-af) and my chastity is really, really, precious to me too. My belt represents my ongoing commitment to my marriage.

                  Though I accept I'm a total horndog, I've chosen to keep my eyes exclusively on my wife for the rest of my life. No matter what. As well as saving time and preventing excess, my belt protects and guards my commitment to my marriage.

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                    Angelina so at least in germany it is not possible for the parents to do something like that

                    That's actually wrong.
                    A psychiatric clinic is for dealing with mentally ill patients and the criteria for a someone being admitted to a locked down ward where he / she cannot leave is based on the risk of harming oneself or another person.
                    This is completely different from guardianship. Like parents are the legal guardians of their u der age children, a court can appoint a guardian for a person over the legal age of maturity (18 in Germany) and whether or not strong measures taken by a guardian are acceptable is always a case by case decision.
                    You could for example argue that normally putting someone in a belt should be illegal, but this again would be determined based on an individual case. If a guardian can, for example, demonstrate he havs exhausted less restrictive measures and was unable to achieve the necessary control to actually protect the person under Guardiansip, a court might well rule that use of a cb was actually justified.

                      curious They were appointed to that role for her reason, so if it came to such a trial, that would also hinge on whether sexually irresponsible behavior led (or at least contributed) to her self-harm, or whether her parents were reasonable in their assumption that it did.

                        youdontknowme
                        Exactly.
                        I any case it is impossible to predict what a court decision would be without knowing each and every detail of that case.

                        Please note the recent case of Britney Spears. Her Father got himself appointed Guardian for her and was able to have an IUD inserted and prevent her from having it removed. She dealth with this situation for several years. And she is an adult. It took her years to get released from that Guardianship. Maybe a Chastity Belt is not so far fetched????

                          Jonas You know, I really hope she does it. Her rules should apply to her too.

                          Or she can get married instead.

                          Angelina but then she didn't expect anything in return if she wore a belt?

                          She always expects it.

                          Angelina so she decided to wear a belt, has it been ordered yet?

                          Not yet, just measurements.

                          Angelina who gets the keys?

                          Me.

                          bdsamm unless she is incapacited for some reason she is capable of living on her own and making her own decisions

                          I live on my own now.

                          bdsamm As to Mother wearing a belt, what does that have to do with anything in this case?

                          Prevent sex, ofc.

                          Ines Mothers do not have any excuse to avoid wear the the belt if their daughters wear it.

                          Do they have any excuse if their daughters don't?

                            Christine

                            Yes, if the husband allow it to them. But if girls wear, mothers have to wear.
                            If mothers wear it, girls should wear it too, but it is not so mandatory.
                            That is my opinion.

                              Christine Or she can get married instead.

                              What rules will apply for your mum wearing?
                              Belt only or thigh bands / bra as well?

                                Jonas This is something that I tried to explain when I first posted here. I'm middle aged (read: old-af) and my chastity is really, really, precious to me too. My belt represents my ongoing commitment to my marriage

                                Oh sorry yeah good point that's special.

                                  Ines So, whose rules are those. Are they family rules. Who enforces them and how are they enforced? I like the rules but just not sure how to get there.

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