Parents found out - gave them the keys

Renita Yes, we do also have a surprising number of females in same sex relationships under lock, and the number of underage beltings reported here should actually alarm child services around the globe (although I do have my theory on that, but it's only a theory), but the problems are:

1. Given that we have really no statistics how many chastity belts are in use, it's hard to give a probability. And technically even events with a probability 0 can happen, they are just less probable than that all the forum members winning their local lottery (including the ones that don't buy tickets).

2. The question is always do similar people attract similar people. Fact is this forum is one of the few places where you can discuss CB usage in fairly civilized non-sexualized environment on the Internet. Actually, AFAIK, the only one English-speaking one, and the German language one is already much broader, e.g. while they are welcoming to everyone, that also includes openly kinky user. Due to that I'm not mentioning the name or url of that site here, sigh, not sure what @Laura 's policy on that is.

3. Funny discrepancy, BTW, on the German site it's dogma that female chastity belts are basically not capable keeping females from masturbation, and are not really safe for long term wear. Somehow this is in open contradiction with the ladies here, or it's just that they were measured so much better?

4. But yes, in the end, the Internet is anonymous, at best pseudonymous. This is not the 1990s and the university chat channel where a clever IT person could unmask all the locals pretending to be somebody else. (And even then, it was more often the boyfriend/girlfriend of the account holder using that account to chat, while waiting for their better half, Internet access in the 90s was way less universal) Trust is usually build up over time. And analyzing their behavior, etc. E.g. take our newly wed. @Angelina Assume that you know nothing, because technically, we know about that entity not much beyond what she posted here, plus on the previous Mr. Poll thread, plus the fact that some users might have interacted with the entity via email.
   What exactly could be his/her motivation to tell as a fantasy over 5 years? Money, nope, @Laura is not monetizing this site, so this is not "content" to get eyes on the site.
   So that leaves us with assumption (as in high probability) that @Angelina is real and stand alone from @Laura. Is it a fantasy? Probably not, because the site is rather somber.

5. But even if the members here would register with their electronic IDs (not all EU MS have them yet, AND outside the EU it's more like "look into your web cam and show your regular ID", which makes me wonder when somebody will realize that algorithms/generative AI can trivially modify the stream from your external USB webcam to show whatever you want.), that still prove nothing about the use of CBs, living conditions, and so on, so that would be pointless. So the old fashioned "think and engage your brain, potentially google some stuff" technique is the best we have.

End-Of-Rant

George
And Flarum threads are confusing Ranting on a 4 day old post with missing dozens other posts in-between makes one look a bit silly, anyway

The fact stays that on the Internet with identities created on the push of a button, only the longevity, potentially with some cross-referencing can make an identity/story believable.

George I'm not saying that this story is impossible, but so perfect timing.

Laura Off-topic but I think Flarum is perfect for the types of discussion held here. Not only the most useful chastity forum but also the most readable!

Owl Yeah, never forget, certain parts of the USA look surprising much like the Iran, they only use some version of the Bible instead of Qu'ran. Including making VPNs and porn basically illegal
Sorry, one should be correct. Putting so high a burden on porn sites, that porn sites prefer to geo fence certain US states out.

Sigh. And we do have EU MS that appreciate the Iranian mentality too, again under the banner of Catholic Church.

George I mean, I doubt anyone here thinks the regulars are characters provided by the forum for readers' entertainment. But what is quite realistic is that at least some of the things regulars here tell are a bit embellished. Maybe people exaggerate their situation a bit, or report the roles they are playing as if they were a true story, not play. Maybe people who started posting fictional stories for a cheap thrill grew to enjoy the community, but could not come clean without jeopardizing their relationship with it.

I do not think we should take any report we see here as evidence that the exact things described in it are actually happening. But the ones that are completely removed from reality usually tend to get bored quickly, or tell tales so tall they are completely unbelievable. Anyone who has stuck around for weeks deserves at least the benefit of doubt.

And as for identity verification, that would probably catch the older not-so-gentlemen roleplaying as young women, but that says nothing about whether the rest of their experiences is genuine while also scaring off a whole lot of legitimate members.

youdontknowme I agree. The people looking for a thrill get bored pretty fast. And tend to be a bit over the top, like going 24/7 from the start or a custom belt suddenly being available to wear.
They get sorted out rather quickly though

Laura Well, I do have admit it's still nicer than most forum software.

Which I personally avoid like the devil the water that has flown through a church. You know the one that is supposed to have been magically to have been altered to be holy but no changes have been ever shown scientifically

Sorry, I forgot you are American, and you take religion more seriously

youdontknowme

youdontknowme And as for identity verification, that would probably catch the older not-so-gentlemen roleplaying as young women, but that says nothing about whether the rest of their experiences is genuine while also scaring off a whole lot of legitimate members.

Exactly, it would serve little purpose. Beside that it would not work globally. I always snigger about "online exams", "online verification of physical IDs", where the institutions themselves (or better even use 3rd party proctoring services) to make sure that it's student X that is doing the exam.

1. I'm not sure why nobody seems to realize that nearly all webcams connect via USB. There are literally single board computers out there optimized for video numeric processing with USB host interfaces and USB gadget/device interfaces included, meaning they can connect a real webcam, could be programmed to alter the data, and then pretend to be a webcam. Which are basically UVC, USB standard devices in most cases. This is BSc practical work level for CS students here around for the SBC/stream stuff, and the video alteration for AI/Datascience students. (AI students learn literally how to train networks to modify images in their first year in their Intro to AI classes)

2. but you can literally go way more low tech. Student X is sitting at a desk against a wall. Not something that you can reasonably forbid. How do you prevent that the test is actually taken by person Y behind a wall, with a HDMI/USB cable going through the wall? Physical KVM switch for the USB/HDMI cables that not even the best proctoring software on a locked down Windows PC can detect.

youdontknowme I do not think we should take any report we see here as evidence that the exact things described in it are actually happening. But the ones that are completely removed from reality usually tend to get bored quickly, or tell tales so tall they are completely unbelievable. Anyone who has stuck around for weeks deserves at least the benefit of doubt.

Obviously. I think I even mentioned that I reserve in my posts to replace identifying details with semantically, in the context of the post, equal details.

One thing that I think many people question is how so many "children/(young) adults" don't simply run to the authorities. The whole scale of voluntary to involuntary wearing, because it's certainly not a simply binary question.

Then especially family provides for the young not only economic resources, but usually also things like a home, social contacts, education, …

I think what people don't realize that situations are individual and complicated.

Another side note, the better situated a family, the more niceties a family can provide (not all do, most do) to their offspring. I do admit that this site has triggered a bit of retrospective for me, but I realized that most of my better friends/acquaintances when I was younger, from "better socio-economic classes" usually had some form of a what I call "devil's deal" in place. And no, none of them involved something as benign as a chastity belt.

In the best cases only one "crazy parent" who harassed the kid. (And I mean it, in that case I know that multiple psychiatrists have expressed the desire to see her mother for chat. Purely to understand the family system better. But mum knows that she is fine, it's all the others that are sick.)
But dropping the contact with the family is not an option, the rest of the family is important to her. As is her inheritance,

So I don't see the big problem as some with stories that some poor lazy persons sell their "sexuality" for a car, or a place to sleep or tuition fees. It's all individual cases, it's all complicated, and from my life experience especially for youngsters, it can be very complicated and painful to cut that virtual umbilical with their parents when they really become independent. Redefining that relationship with your parents is hard, IMHO.

George some poor lazy persons sell their "sexuality" for a car, or a place to sleep or tuition fees.

"Poor lazy person" seems like a rather judgmental choice of words there. And I think the issue is not so much the quid-pro-quo involved, but more whether the "bribe" in question is something that patents would customarily provide with fewer strings attached, or that grown-up children even have a widely-recognized right to. Which would depend a lot on location of course, and applies more to shelter and education than to something like a car or monetary gifts.

George And no, none of them involved something as benign as a chastity belt.

Now I am imagining what would make 23/7 physical restraint look benign. It is not just about not having free reign to have sex, that is quite a common policy whose enforcement has varying degrees of success. It is also about an unyielding piece of metal clamped to the wearer's body all day and night, in a place that is fairly high-maintenance no less, and all the struggles that come with that.

You brought up emotional stressful relationships already, but those may not strictly be an either/or deal - the belt may well be a symptom or even a catalyst for an exhausting parent-child relationship.

George One thing that I think many people question is how so many "children/(young) adults" don't simply run to the authorities. The whole scale of voluntary to involuntary wearing, because it's certainly not a simply binary question.

Then especially family provides for the young not only economic resources, but usually also things like a home, social contacts, education, …

I think what people don't realize that situations are individual and complicated.

That is why I do not necessarily think of anti-abuse resources as the first resort, but knowledge of one's rights and recourses can be a bargaining chip in any discussions about those things.

youdontknowme

youdontknowme "Poor lazy person" seems like a rather judgmental choice of words there. And I think the issue is not so much the quid-pro-quo involved, but more whether the "bribe" in question is something that patents would customarily provide with fewer strings attached, or that grown-up children even have a widely-recognized right to. Which would depend a lot on location of course, and applies more to shelter and education than to something like a car or monetary gifts.

I've seen more than once words applied that suggested that wearers should just forego the "unnecessary comforts", and one can also study without having your parents pay your way or your car.

(I wouldn't know. OTOH, I do remember a girl who I picked during my student days, which was a bit surprised about my car. All students had a car with motorized leather seats and walnut on their console, right? I mean perhaps not in the evil USA but in our good old socialized Europe, in the good old days when I was young and beautiful, that must have been in part of the basic student aid package, right?)

youdontknowme Now I am imagining what would make 23/7 physical restraint look benign.

Let's say, physical torments disappear. Or at least, disappear much easier.

Psychological abuses (even if not sexual), form who you are.

The classical list includes (but is not complete, I would have again probably thing for some time, age and Covid make be forgetful :

• highly dominating parents (in one case I had at least one family, where the kids got literally the wrong "roles" for the inheritance assigned, my then girlfriend was basically doing anything but to take begging publicly on knees to be trained to take over the company, while the younger son wanted to be an engineer, but guess who was penciled in for a JD & MBA? Two very good consumers to psychologists as adults resulted, but then the family was relatively reach, their company had over 1000 employees.

• parents who use kids as substitute partner (non-sexual). Non-funny. And very crazy family life if one parent decides that the partner is not mature enough to take important decisions, and starts to discuss serious family, business, investment decisions with a 14 years old kid.

• add hyper helicoptering as opt-on. Clean anything behind the kid as much. Sounds cool, but if not done carefully can leave the kid totally unprepared for the real world living in an alternative reality. Especially if the protective bubble is ever lifted.

• add total ignoring parents. Parenting by handing over a credit card, but they are good parents, they might look even once a year at the report card, and ask twice a year the servants if the kid is eating healthy. (Now to defend my parents here, my sisters where real assholes that took much more of their attention. Being the good kid who always had good grades and never needed the lawyer, in one word boring, had his advantages/disadvantages.)

• talking bad about your kids, literally. I had literally parents who talked down their own kids. Basically destroyed their self-worth. (Mine might not have build up mine much, but at least they sold me always to the outside as a mix of Davinci and Jesus the Almighty, one tries to learn to deal with the embarrassment.) In front of the kids. How they are useless, will never be worth anything, achieve anything.

The problem is I could continue the list. Some of that stuff is obvious, some is not so obvious, especially is you are used to it, and you stand there how can you stand it, but for the persons involved, this is their life.

George Hitachi magic wand is everything a female with a chastity belt needs, and basically no belt can be so well tailored to prevent a Q-tip coming under the shield.

I don't know about the situation with women, but wearing two models of belts (and probably more than 10 models of cages) I had no problems with coming during stimulation with a wand vibrator.

George nd basically no belt can be so well tailored to prevent a Q-tip coming under the shield.

Or use a feather

George I've seen more than once words applied that suggested that wearers should just forego the "unnecessary comforts", and one can also study without having your parents pay your way or your car.

Have not seen much of that myself. Any encouragement to pack your bags and run has been when people have already been considering it. Like Lukas with his sister, who was prepared to do that, but, partially because he had that option, was able to come to an agreement everyone involved could live with.

George Let's say, physical torments disappear. Or at least, disappear much easier.

Oh yeah, the lasting input of emotional abuse and poor support cannot be neglected, but that is also not something that running away would fix.

Plus you need to take into account that use of physical restraints like chastity devices non-consensually is, in itself, closely tied to emotional abuse. Either as a symptom or even as a catalyst by sparking more conflict between the two parties. Restraining someone's body against their will is pretty much the ultimate sign of distrust, treating someone as if they are as uncivilized as a wild animal. To say nothing about the little abuses tied to involuntary belt wear, like loss of privacy, schedules for the performance of basic self-care and what not.

Now, this is obviously much less severe in quid-pro-quo chastity arrangements than it is in coercion that relies on threats of violence or ostracism. But non-consensual chastity is not an alternative to emotional abuse, but a companion.