Chastity for brothers and other boys

Angelina

i am very feminine of my character, yet i am bi . i think our behavior says nothing about our sexual orientation 😉

Vanessa

I think too,but many people tend to link these,even if it is not related at all.And they're pretty sure they're right,so it is difficult to make them understand they're wrong,even with good arguments and examples.

Ines

Vanessa
I am conventional girl! Maybe more interested in History an Geography than average girl, but pretty conventional! 😂

Angelina

i think there are too many prejudices today. a man who is gay can still be male and a woman who is lesbian can still be female 🙂

Vanessa

Angelina

I agree with you,but a lot of people don't understand it.

Angelina it is definitely something i would buy for my daughter, but nothing my father (or many other parents here) would accept

It can be useful,sometimes,yes.But my parents won't accept it instead of the chastity belt,too.

Angelina but when we are married I will think about it again 😉

Would Camryn like it?And do you consider wearing one yourself,when married?

Ines In the field of chastity belt, there is only a worse thing: use a belt as punishment.

Forced permannet wearing is worse,in my opinion.

Esteban

Ines I think your approach even not totally wrong, in fact some girls here started to wear the belt as protection, I think the conceptualism of the girls as victims is not the main motivation under modern belting of the girls.
I think, that in most cases, parents think in "preservation" before than in "protection". They, in general, are not in panic about rapes, more well they are fear of girls bad steps before marrying.

Thanks to your post you have highlighted a subtle distinction but of capital importance.
Indeed, according to you, the main motivation of parents to wear the belt to girls would be to preserve their virginity rather than protect them against possible rape.

So if we push the argument a little further, it means that these same parents would feel less affected (or less distressed) if their daughter would lose her virginity against her acceptation (in case of rape) than if their daughter had lost his virginity by making love to a boy with all his heart.

And here I must admit that I am deeply revolted that some parents can think that way.

Indeed, in such a case, it is clear that it is the ego (or pride) of parents who prevails over the emotional security of their daughter.

It simply shows a deep selfishness on their part and I will never be convinced that such parents can act out of sincere love for their daughter.

In fact, it is not their daughter that protects but their own pride (their own vainness) and it shocked me deeply.

I consider that the primary mission of a parent is to protect his daughter from any external physical and psychological danger without affecting her consent or sexual fulfillment.

For my part that parents who sincerely love their daughters must put their physical and emotional safety above the honor or reputation of their daughter.

I think a good family man claiming sincerely loved his daughter, should invest in this kind of equipment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyDBP2rp6DE

I honestly think it's a great invention to protect the girl against potential abusers while leaving her full of sexual freedom.

If for example the girl is a bit drunk during an alcoholic evening she can not be sexually abused against her will.

It's my educational philosophy.

Angelina

Esteban

haha I already know that 😉

it is definitely something i would buy for my daughter, but nothing my father (or many other parents here) would accept 🙁

Laura

Esteban if their daughter would lose her virginity against her acceptation

You can just ignore this case, most of girls lose their virginity with full consent.

Esteban

Angelina
You can also buy one for your girlfriend.
I would call it "smart emotional protection"

Ines

Esteban
Esteban, thankfully, losses virginity in Western countries is very much likely that be raped.
And I think that most of parents here think that maidenhood is a good for the own girl.
Even wrong, parents are not so selfish!

Angelina

Esteban

hmm I think my father will unfortunately not be enough 🙁

but when we are married I will think about it again 😉

Esteban

Ines
Sorry Ines but I consider that the parents are selfish when they impose chastity on their daughter and that she does not adhere to this value.

In this case, the parents are selfish because they prefer to sacrifice the happiness of their daughter by making her unhappy rather than questioning an archaic and sexist principle of another age.

For me chastity imposed will always be regarded as an unacceptable intrusion of parents into the intimate life of their daughter.

In this case I say that it is a selfishness because a child can not be considered as a material property of his parents.

The child is being endowed with reason and he has to make his own life choices.

If parents impose lifes choices on their child, that is equals mental cloning.

Ines

Esteban chastity imposed

Nothing good can be said about this. But the principles in which is based, I think it is not selfish.
They think they are doing the right.
Anyway, they are wrong.

Esteban

Ines

In conclusion would you agree with this ?

To propose a course of action to one's child that one thinks is the best for him is an acceptable thing.
(we stay in education)

To impose this course of action against his intimate will is unacceptable (we are not in the field of education but in forced training)

Ines

Esteban
Of course.
Force someone to wear a belt is a huge mistake. In the field of chastity belt, there is only a worse thing: use a belt as punishment.

Angelina

Ines

but also only in the field of the chastity belt 😉 there are far worse punishments 🙁

Esteban

Ines In the field of chastity belt, there is only a worse thing: use a belt as punishment.

Vanessa Forced permannent wearing is worse, in my opinion.

I noticed that you disagreed about the chastity belt used as punishment. For one is much better (Vanessa) while for the other is worse than anything (Ines)
But in reality you do not have the same approach at all and your disagreement is not real.

Let me explain why :

To the attention of INES :

It is obvious that in Vanessa's mind the use of the chastity belt as punishment is largely preferable for her because the duration of her sentence was necessarily for a limited period of time (several weeks)

Once the punishment time had passed, Vanessa know that she would regain the freedom to masturbate at some point once the punishment was over.

Once released from her belt, she still had the opportunity to avoid futur punishment (and therefore the wearing of the belt) by behaving in an exemplary manner or avoiding getting caught. She had a partial control of her masturbations and orgasms (to note that the masturbation that is fundamental for HER but not for YOU)

And in Vanessa's mind since the belt is no longer used as a punishment it is obvious that the belt can only be used to force her to be a sexually irreproachable woman until the day of her marriage.

And use in the belt in this design is will impeach Vanessa of masturbating for an indefinite period of which she does not will know the end.

Vanessa feels then in the same state as a prisoner sentenced to life while under the punishment's regim Vanessa knows his time of penance.

To the attention of VANESSA :

It is obvious that in INES's mind the fact of using the chastity belt as a punishment against elle is absolutely detestable since it would mean that his parents would force him to wear the belt in order to PUNIR. (which they have never done until today)

No wonder that Ines would be deeply revolted against this type of approach because it would have no say. His consent, his opinion, would no longer be respected by his parents. And in his mind There would be breach of the contract of trust between her and her parents.

In INES 'mind, using the chastity belt as a punishment would make him lose control of his consent and trust in his parents.

So to summarize YOU HAVE EVERY BOTH REASONS in your views but because you dont have the same starting approach according to your main expectations.

The essential for VANESSA is to be able to have a maximum of opportunity to masturbate.

The essential for INES is to always be able to wear the belt in a concensual setting where his opinion must be respected.

I hope that with my demonstration you will be perfectly in agreement with the opinion of the other. I think I missed my vocation as a conciliator for family affairs.

All that to say that the Martian Troll better understand the Venusian. But not sure, however, that the Venusian understand as well the state of mind of the Martian Troll that I am.

Esteban

Laura You can just ignore this case, most of girls lose their virginity with full consent.

Sorry Laura but it's not because there are fewer girls who lose their virginity against their sandstone that we must do as if it did not exist.

Statistical information on rape is often underestimated because the victim feels terribly ashamed. Some studies claim that 1 in 6 French women have been raped or attempted to rape in their lifetime. That's almost 17%, it's not insignificant.

https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/2019/02/08/combien-y-a-t-il-de-viols-chaque-annee-combien-de-plaintes-combien-de-condamnations_1708081

My demonstration is to argue that this should be the first attention of a father who pretend to love his daughter sincerely. Protect her as much as she can so that nothing bad happens to her.

But what hurt me is that it is not the first priority of some parents who wish above all to preserve the purity of their daughter so as not to feel dishonored.

What I find really revolting is that some of them might find it less damaging that their "little angel" was forced rather than accept that she could afford a man with all her heart.

Roughly some parents would be much more upset that their daughter could have disobeyed them rather than happened to her. Such an attitude disgusts me.

Angelina

Vanessa

it's an idea, so i must be less afraid that camryn will be a victim of rape 😉 but the difference to cb is that the wearer can take off the pants himself, only others can't 😉

@Esteban

I understand what you want to tell us, I personally want to join the view of Vanessa, since I find the permanent wearing much worse than the cb as punishment, but I also understand why ines sees it differently 😉

Laura

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