Lesdom and chastity

Max9 I think @Sara2001 is in a bdsm relationship

hmm... I don't know if I want to call it a bdsm relationship, but we can ask @Sara2001 how she would like it to be called.

Angelina I don't know if I want to call it a bdsm relationship,

She agreed to a Total Power Exchange relation and this is part of BDSM. Nevertheless if both are happy with it than it is fine with me and I wish them a happy relation in best case forever. After all, they are adults and it is within their discretion to do so.

Renita But your chastity devices are involved in the relationship with your girlfriend.

that's true, but my relationship with my father is "only" family whereas my relationship with my girlfriend is romantic, that's a difference.

Joh She agreed to a Total Power Exchange relation and this is part of BDSM.

part of it that's true, but i think she called it a male led relationship. i like that term better.

Angelina male led relationship

It sounds better but they named it by them self.

Sara2001 This is his answer (I translated it to English)
We decided to have a total power exchange relationship.

Vanessa ;yes,but nothing hint that they like/use bondage nor that @Sara2001 would be a masochist...

I am not an expert, but since someone is beaten in a regular basis, for a outsider as me, it is pretty similar to masochism.

Joh It sounds better but they named it by them self.

right, i remembered it differently

Vanessa yes,but nothing hint that they like/use bondage nor that @Sara2001 would be a masochist...

well the chastity equipment or at least the thigh bands could be considered bondage, besides she once wrote here that her hands are tied when she takes a shower, that is already a bit bondage for me.

I think masochism can be defined in different ways. For me, what @Sara2001 does would be self-masochism, but I don't think she sees it that way because she was brought up differently.

Vanessa BDSM means,if I'm right:Bondage Domination Submission Masochism.In @Sara2001's relationship with her boyfriend,there is a part of domination/submission;yes,but nothing hint that they like/use bondage nor that @Sara2001 would be a masochist...

Bondage Domintion Submission Sadism Masochism. Yes, It's a category of fetishes. One of the fetishes insde of this category is DS (Domination & Submission).

Foxies I believe the value of this forum is we can get beyond labels and discuss our own, highly individual viewpoints and find ideas that make us think.

i think so too, i agree with you on this point and i would like to stress that i am not in favour of using "labels" in a bold way either. but i think it is also important to say how we define terms like bdsm for ourselves so that there is no communicative problem.

Joh

belt and bra rather not, we can discuss the thigh bands

Angelina belt and bra rather not,

Why not? Your bust and sex is bound in metal.

Angelina

I agree it promotes communication when everyone has the same understandings of the terms of reference. Sadly, this is all too rarely the case, particularly when the terms can arouse such strong emotions.

Joh

In a real sense, all chastity devices and accessories are bondage devices. They limit choice by design. But this doesn't mean that it has anything necessarily to do with kink. Wedding rings are symbols of bondage where the wearer is bound to their partner. I do not see any kink or fetish in that.

Joh Why not? Your bust and sex is bound in metal.

I wear them as clothing as I like the supportive feeling. Maybe if I had not been introduced to it a long time ago I wouldn't be as addicted to it but that is what it is supportive clothing. I do not have any experience at all with thighbands or anything else as it was not necessary on me.

Vanessa If would be the case if it is Emilie who would make me wear it and has my keys.

That would not necessarily force you into any labels as some of those labels like Machoism can be kind of creepy and porn related.

Ines

A masochist likes pain,and can be aroused by it,I think;it seems to not be the case of @Sara2001.

Angelina well the chastity equipment or at least the thigh bands could be considered bondage, besides she once wrote here that her hands are tied when she takes a shower, that is already a bit bondage for me.

Maybe,yes.But,about it too,@Sara2001 accepts it,but may not like it.

Foxies Acronyms are even worse. S can be used for sadism or slave, and M for masochism or Master/Mistress/Ma'am etc. which are actually the opposites of each other.

I was not sure about the "S" in BDSM too...I doubt the "M" would be "Master" as there is already this concept by "D"(Domination).

Foxies I believe the value of this forum is we can get beyond labels and discuss our own, highly individual viewpoints

I agree.

Max9

You think the "S" in BDSM implies both possibilities?

Joh

Especially due to thigh bands,not much to other chastity devices.

Joh

But not as restrictive for walking or taking stairs than the thigh bands.

Joh Why not? Your bust and sex is bound in metal.

yes, but not every metal is bdsm , or would you call a saw a bdsm ?

Foxies when everyone has the same understandings of the terms of reference. Sadly, this is all too rarely the case,

and that is why i always explain how i define things so that i am understood

Vanessa Maybe,yes.But,about it too,@Sara2001 accepts it,but may not like it.

yes, that's true it seems to me that she accepts but doesn't really like it, she rather likes how happy her boyfriend is about it

Vanessa A masochist likes pain,and can be aroused by it,

It can be more subtle. An since someone is happy being beaten if is not masochism, it is very close.