Vanessa She's not physically virgin.

I think really a virgin just not physically. But it's ok for others to view it differently.

Vanessa ambience worse in your home

School has started again now so it's not so bad. Not much has been said to me, yes Dad is more realistic and Mum more moody. They are still disagreeing otherwise something would have been said to me.

Angelina So she expected your first orgasm to be with your husband and was disappointed when she realised it wasn't. ?

I guess she thinks it should be that way but I don't know how she could have expected it. Orgasm has never been talked about. Maybe she hoped, or didn't like but tolerated. I think the hymen and sex toys were both big issues for her so both yeah. Actually I think sex toys is what she was talking about the other day so never for her. Urgh it was awkward at the time and weird to think about now.

Angelina this is the best way, but it only works if parents and daughters have roughly the same idea of sex and masturbation.

Well I agree with them on half of that. But my point was I was in a fragile state - I'm much better now. The first night when I ran off I was at my limit, if they kept pushing I think I would have caved.

            Jen The first night when I ran off

            Could you go to a friend?

            • Jen replied to this.

                Joh I just went to my room and they left me alone
                Run off - I mean I ran away from the conversation not from home

                • Joh replied to this.

                    Jen I mean I ran away from the conversation not from home

                    OK. Thank you.

                      Vanessa Right,as they order the D-rings.

                      according to the motto "for all cases" or let's see how far we can go 🙁

                      Jen Orgasm has never been talked about

                      that is the problem, if she has any expectations of you in terms of sex or masturbation, she should talk to you openly about it, only in this way can acceptance be achieved.

                      Jen Well I agree with them on half of that. But my point was I was in a fragile state - I'm much better now. The first night when I ran off I was at my limit, if they kept pushing I think I would have caved.

                      good that you're feeling better again and you still didn't caved 🙂

                              Vanessa Difficult to make them trust her,I guess.

                              Everyone makes mistakes and the lesson has been learned.

                                  HHelen Everyone makes mistakes and the lesson has been learned.

                                  From your opinion who did the mistake and what did they learn?

                                      Jen I think really a virgin just not physically. But it's ok for others to view it differently.

                                      I agree with you.

                                      Jen Not much has been said to me

                                      Good.Do you think they given up,or only delayed it?

                                      Jen The first night when I ran off I was at my limit, if they kept pushing I think I would have caved.

                                      You think you would be able to resist more,now?

                                      Angelina let's see how far we can go 🙁

                                      Possible they wanted to have these in the case they can convince her to add it;at least,they probably have thought about it.

                                      Angelina that is the problem, if she has any expectations of you in terms of sex or masturbation, she should talk to you openly about it, only in this way can acceptance be achieved.

                                      I agree,it should have been talked about.

                                      HHelen

                                      I think too,they could give her at least a second chance to prove she can be trusted.How can she prove it if they don't?

                                                    Jen I think I would have caved

                                                    Many people here are telling you not to agree. They may be right for them, but perhaps not right for you. Obeying your parents is often the best way. I know it is for me.

                                                        Gina Perhapse you agreed too early? @Jen can still avoid the belt. Are you envious?

                                                          Gina Many people here are telling you not to agree. They may be right for them, but perhaps not right for you. Obeying your parents is often the best way. I know it is for me.

                                                          If it was a good decision it can be a bad one for another person.
                                                          It is depended on many things like culture at your country, law, common sense, social environment, etc.

                                                              Jen They are still disagreeing otherwise something would have been said to me.

                                                              Something changed at their view at the topic?
                                                              How is school going? Is it better to be out of the house and with friends?

                                                              • Jen replied to this.

                                                                  Joh From your opinion who did the mistake and what did they learn?

                                                                  @Jen did with her toy. And she has learned to not do it again.

                                                                  Vanessa they could give her at least a second chance to prove she can be trusted

                                                                  And she is not even supposed to masturbate.

                                                                        I think this is over. There was another serious talk today but not about the belt. Like you hear the term elephant in the room well this was the biggest elephant that ever lived and just ignored.
                                                                        So Dad said they want me to make a promise. He said it is reasonable and he thinks I can keep it so don't promise unless I really mean it. He said I need to promise to never have a sex toy in their house or use anything in the house in a sexual way. Also he said it is a promise forever, if I leave home and come back it still applies.
                                                                        So I made the promise. It's better than I thought they were going to say. Also they brought up virgin until married again and I agreed again that is what I want too.

                                                                        Angelina if she has any expectations of you in terms of sex or masturbation, she should talk to you openly about it

                                                                        Vanessa I agree,it should have been talked about.

                                                                        I think I'm glad she didn't. I now know that she is against it but it seems it will be tolerated as long as there are no toys. I'm glad to not have guilt about it.

                                                                        Angelina good that you're feeling better again and you still didn't caved 🙂

                                                                        Thanks I don't talk about this with anyone so nice to have support here. Also to the others who helped.

                                                                        Vanessa You think you would be able to resist more,now?

                                                                        Yes, after getting through the first night I felt much more that I really could refuse, not just hoping I could.

                                                                        Joh How is school going? Is it better to be out of the house and with friends?

                                                                        Yes it was good to be back. And even better I'll be allowed to have some money to go out with friends again. I'm not getting pocket money, but they will put money in my account for specific things and they have a login to check.

                                                                        Gina I don't know how it could have ever worked. If I'd gone along with it for a while it would have been more misery later.

                                                                        HHelen And she is not even supposed to masturbate.

                                                                        Luckily it is ignored🥳

                                                                                        Vanessa Possible they wanted to have these in the case they can convince her to add it;at least,they probably have thought about it.

                                                                                        That's what I meant by seeing how far we can go

                                                                                        Gina Obeying your parents is often the best way.

                                                                                        In my opinion, obeying is the wrong word, understand and accept would be better.

                                                                                        Joh It is depended on many things like culture at your country, law, common sense, social environment, etc.

                                                                                        it really only depends on your personal attitude to the overall situation 😉 (and yes I know you will disagree with me)

                                                                                        Jen I think this is over. There was another serious talk today but not about the belt. Like you hear the term elephant in the room well this was the biggest elephant that ever lived and just ignored.
                                                                                        So Dad said they want me to make a promise. He said it is reasonable and he thinks I can keep it so don't promise unless I really mean it. He said I need to promise to never have a sex toy in their house or use anything in the house in a sexual way. Also he said it is a promise forever, if I leave home and come back it still applies.
                                                                                        So I made the promise. It's better than I thought they were going to say. Also they brought up virgin until married again and I agreed again that is what I want too.

                                                                                        thanks for the update, i think the conversation was very important for both sides. it's good that you were able to avoid the belt. i think the promise is very honourable and because you don't seem completely averse to the idea of going into the wedding as a virgin, it also seems to be feasible 🙂

                                                                                                  Jen

                                                                                                  You should feel pretty good about a successful negotiation and outcome. And so should the forum members who gave you good support and advice. 😀

                                                                                                    Jen Congratultions, you made it! Be careful and avoid the belt comming back with every dispute. As a teenager, arguments with parents are not always avoidable. You're not safe until the belt is sold. You should carefully ask your father what they are going to do with it (wait a view days....). Give them little reason to be angry about you in the near future until something has grown on the matter. The thing about banning the sex toys was your father's admission to your mother that she's not entirely unsuccessful. If you consistently reject the belt, you usually keep your freedom. As I predicted, parents are very insecure in such a case because they themselves know that what they are doing is wrong. Good luck for the future!

                                                                                                      Jen Why did you promise that? This is very harsh. It is your right to own and use a sex toy, it's normal. They cna't make oyu wear the belt even if oyu refuse to promise that. A lot of people use dildos, that's normal. you should tell your parents that

                                                                                                          Jen I wonder if in the end you will not wear a belt then what will your parents do to the belt? Your parents are going to leave it in a basement or they will sell it or throw it away.

                                                                                                              Abby82 They can change their minds for sure, but she can just tell them, she doesn't want to play along in that game. Usually every girl is allowed to do that. She should make her parents see that this is crazy. If they continue to be like that, she should just leave them.