Ines Was your mother such a good girl before marriage or was this kind of moral lifestyle created to make you wear a chastity belt? I ask this question because I know how the belt came into your family.
And: I don't expect an answer because you shouldn't tell others private things about your mother. This question is only to make you think about the whole situation.
What Are Attitudes Toward ...
Avery So how would this be perceived by those who consider virginity in a person important, especially in a partner?
I would stay away from a guy like that.
Well, church made the rules.. If it is a sin for their rules, then it is a sin for those who follow the rules of said religion. Either someone take the full book or does not try.
This reminds me those old stories where people tricked the devil by using loopholes in contracts, but this time the one they are trying to mock is God himself.
Way to go with faith, I must say.
Ines Qold question... is oral / anal sex a sin if it happens beflre marriage... there are different and very controversoal answers to this qjedtion, in my opinion:
- It is a sin because all the sluttines that comes by it was made by the devil
- It is a sin because sex before marriage is a sin in general
- It isn't a sin because there is no chance to become pregnant. This answer is based in the belief that sex before marriage is only a sin because there is no 100% safety of pregnancy before marriage what can easily lead to a child having no married parents / only one parent or him /her being killed (abortion)
- It is a sin because sexual amusememt is only to be shared berween married persons ... what would also reduce the desire to cheat is the beloved husband / wife is not as good in bed as you would wish him to be ... whenconly having had sex with one person you can't compere it to others.
So the answer is a yes and no. Maybe it's better to be safe in being a good person, this related tl the ones who give, but also to the ones who recieve this kind of sex, to relinquish habing these variations of sex. Still, because it is am indefinite answer ... it won't be a very bad sin, rather a help to be safed from the desire of comitting a sin.
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LoonyMel Well, church made the rules.. If it is a sin for their rules, then it is a sin for those who follow the rules of said religion
All true, but the church was made by men. So follow Jesus. He saved the adulteress from those who would stone her and reproached them "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and simply told the adulteress "go thy way and sin no more". So let's be on the lookout for those who cast stones.
Well but Jesus and the whole gospel thing was made up by those same man at Nicea.
They decided what to keep as "truth" and what to regard as "heresy".
They decided "this thing they said about Jesus is useful, let's keep it" and "this thing they said is damaging for our power, let's pretend Jesus never did it".
If I do not trust men, I cannot even trust something that was written and selected b those same men and was presented as God words by those same men again.
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LoonyMel Well but Jesus and the whole gospel thing was made up by those same man at Nicea.
Indeed, you know your church history. But I try to maintain in my head an impression of what Jesus himself was like and, son of God or not, what he would have thought and said. Then I do what I think he would have wanted me to do, which is treat people decently. Also I enjoy the organ music in church.
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Ines No, anal or oral sex is ever a sin. Sex is not a sin only when it is done thinking in procreation.
then, as modern woman you are, are you going to play chance of being pregnant every time you are released? 
I think that can make more than 4 brothers in your fertile life....
jaque mate 
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It is Church, not me!
I was talking about doctrine, @Sin , not about my opinion.
I insist, @Max9 , made a statement about Church Doctrine that it was not true. And I simply said that non-procreative (?) sex is always sin for the Church.
I said somewhere in last days, that I am Catholic but not idiot, and I am sure that God has another bigger worries.
Avery If one has promised to be obedient to one's husband does this not pose a dilemma?
No, since he asks you to make a sin. Similar if he asks kill a person.
it's true, I found you already said something in the other "less strict" way.. but coming here and reading the latest messages...
Ines I am Catholic, but I am not a lamb, I am sure that God does not care if I ,(sorry I do not talk this way usually), kneel in front of my man as symbol of my love... You understand me...
I don't support all the arbitrary rules of church which went outdated, but if the rules are there.. why somes are not valid and others yes? instead of just ignore all the rules which are outdated?
I was talking about something similar with a very religious person, as time passed and some things before were a sin, and later not.. who says something still classified as sin/inappropriate should or will change to appropriate?