Laura If I understand right, it's not against his will

ZeynepFox his mother may want to observe and supervise the amount of sex we have

I can't find any information that he agree to it either.

        Joh He agrees to let his mother hold his bride's keys. Why it should be different?

        • Joh replied to this.

            Joh Because they are not married.

            If he is mature and responsible he will not have sex with her before marriage.
            I can understand if her parents require her to wear a chastity belt.
            But in this particular case his mother requires it, that means she doesn't trust him

                Laura It's probably forbidden

                I don't know, I guess I could have it done if I really wanted to, but there is no medical necessity from my point of view.

                Christine Don't give parents such a crazy idea.

                i didn't do that. it's more about when, for example, german women want to have a "virginity certificate", in my opinion the parents are left out.

                      Laura But in this particular case his mother requires it, that means she doesn't trust him

                      This is one way to see it.
                      Another way is she doesn't trust her or she will be sure nothing can happen like rape.

                          Joh she will be sure nothing can happen like rape.

                          Can she rape him? 🤣

                          • Joh replied to this.

                              Laura Yes, it is possible. It's not often but already done.
                              But she herself could also be raped by someone before she is married.

                                  Angelina but after the wedding, no one but the two of you will be interested

                                  Both could be interested if explained the advantage.

                                  Angelina sex life is something very special and intimate

                                  That's exactly the reason, and they should wait at least until night.

                                  Laura But in this particular case his mother requires it, that means she doesn't trust him

                                  No, it's because her parents are irresponsible. She will have to present that certificate right before marriage as a proof she didn't sleep with him yet. Otherwise it would be the shame for both families and other negative consequences.

                                  Joh Another way is she doesn't trust her or she will be sure nothing can happen like rape.

                                  Not rape, but seduction.

                                            HHelen No, it's because her parents are irresponsible.

                                            And just how did you arrive at that conclusion?

                                                Avery And just how did you arrive at that conclusion?

                                                Because they had to take care about their daughter's virginity, rather than his parents.

                                                    Joh But she herself could also be raped by someone before she is married.

                                                    Less likely

                                                    HHelen No, it's because her parents are irresponsible.

                                                    Or they trust her more

                                                        HHelen Because they had to take care about their daughter's virginity

                                                        I guess they did a good job, she's still a virgin.

                                                            HHelen Both could be interested if explained the advantage.

                                                            i see no advantage in this

                                                            HHelen That's exactly the reason, and they should wait at least until night.

                                                            in the first weeks of marriage, it should be more often than normal, even during the day. that's why there's a honeymoon, so you have the whole day for that 🙂

                                                                  Avery I guess they did a good job, she's still a virgin.

                                                                  It's more about the religion. And she is still young.

                                                                  Angelina i see no advantage in this

                                                                  To make sex something special, for example.

                                                                        HHelen It's more about the religion. And she is still young.

                                                                        It's not about religion or her age. The family she expects to marry into is simply protecting their own interests. Like buying a horse. I'd say it's business, Sonny, it's not personal but I doubt you've seen the Godfather.

                                                                            Angelina it's more about when, for example, german women want to have a "virginity certificate", in my opinion the parents are left out.

                                                                            I guess, they don't want to, but required to have one.

                                                                                Avery Like buying a horse

                                                                                But the horse must be unspoiled. Only in this case it has a value.

                                                                                Avery but I doubt you've seen the Godfather

                                                                                Which part?

                                                                                      HHelen But the horse must be unspoiled. Only in this case it has a value.

                                                                                      You sound like a man.

                                                                                      HHelen Which part?

                                                                                      I said The Godfather. Not Godfather 2 or 3. The Godfather.

                                                                                            Max9 usually done by a priest and the father

                                                                                            That is really dangerous, any surgeries should be done by professionals, not priests or parents…

                                                                                            Circumcision doesn’t even have any practical reasons nowadays with higher hygiene standards.

                                                                                            https://youtu.be/gCSWbTv3hng