Ines but we think is much better we do not have any possibility of control about this.

Probably my parents think the same. I have no option to not wear the secondary shield, and even if get a new belt with detachable one, I'm pretty sure it will be always on.

      Laura

      the same with me. it is removable but it has more reasons in case of emergencies, otherwise it is always there

      And before you ask, my father never said what an emergency would be.

          Renita

          do you really think that makes a difference ? whether you're with a boy or a girl ?

              Laura

              can you tell me ? why should i wear a secondary sign when i'm with a girl rather than with a boy ?

                  Laura

                  oh, that's what you're getting at 😉

                  ok i understand what you mean i thought rather in the direction if mastubation is possible what yes the case would be no matter if with boy or girl

                      Laura Well, because in case of boy a main shield prevents the main thing

                      Correct. And it doesn’t interfere with the girl

                      Angelina rather in the direction if mastubation is possible what yes the case would be no matter if with boy or girl

                      For this you need neither a boy nor a girl

                            Ines I can understand that not all girls have same feelings, but I like the idea of reserve a entire part of my life, the most primitive and essential part of my feminity to my man

                            Ok,I can understand it.

                            Ines And well, I do not make criticism about different thinking ways

                            Same for me,sorry if you felt I criticized you,it was not my purpose.

                            Angelina that's exactly the point, i mastubated a lot even though i knew my father didn't want it. if i didn't have a secondary sign i would try it again, but since i always wear a secondary sign i have no chance.

                            At least,you avoid being punished for it...

                            Laura In my opinion, it would not hurt anybody if an unwed belted girl is allowed to masturbate, but not excessively. Because she doesn't have other options to relief.

                            I agree with you,even on the "not excessively" part.I liked to masturbate,I liked it a lot,but I was not a chronic masturbator either.Doing it too much can affect badly your social life, your study/work,your sexuality,etc....

                            Angelina the same with me. it is removable but it has more reasons in case of emergencies, otherwise it is always there

                            And before you ask, my father never said what an emergency would be.

                            I don't know what can be an emergency needing to take the secondary shield off,but keeping the belt on...

                            Renita If only because you have a relationship with a girl

                            No,I had to have it on permanently even when dating a man,or when single.

                            But I agree,with Emilie,if I haven't the secondary shield on,there would be much more pleasant possibilities!

                                          Vanessa I don't know what can be an emergency needing to take the secondary shield off,but keeping the belt on...

                                          Maybe for cleaning?

                                              Laura Maybe for cleaning?

                                              It is better to take the belt off and clean more easily,and more completely.

                                                  Renita A girl may not have that key even for emergency.

                                                  Is she can't access it without it being noticed,it isn't a problem.

                                                      Vanessa Is she can't access it without it being noticed,it isn't a problem.

                                                      I think @Renita means when a girl can unlock secondary shield only.

                                                          Vanessa
                                                          Well Vanessa, even me that I can Be the wearer with most flexible regime, there are a lot of times in which I am not released of my belt for every shower I take.
                                                          But without secondary shield cleaning is much better.

                                                              Laura I think @Renita means when a girl can unlock secondary shield only.

                                                              Oh,ok.As I said I have difficulties to imagine what emergencies could be done by taking the shield off but not the belt(even more as the belt is less "secure" with it off...But it depends the purpose of the belt).

                                                              Ines there are a lot of times in which I am not released of my belt for every shower I take.

                                                              Same for me,most of the showers,I still have my belt on.But when it is supervised,it is totally off,I've never had a shower with belt on,without the secondary shield.I guess it is better to wash with it off,sure.

                                                                  if you always wear the secondary shield and never can open, why did your father bought a CB having secondary shield instead of a welded plate? A useless lock more, more weight, useless. and also more expensive maybe.