Avery What then is the value of faith?

Sorry, I don't understand you question. What are you trying to get at?

      Avery What then is the value of faith?

      Many would argue there isn't any.

          Vanessa We have some voluntary male wearers,so,probably,they would wait.

          ,😄I meant here where I live not on the forum

              Avery What then is the value of faith?

              Now I get it.
              This is individually different and lies in the eye of the observer.
              I don't see any, but you seem to see value in it.

                  Joh

                  Joh Sorry, I don't understand you question. What are you trying to get at?

                  You I think are arguing that people should investigate things and decide on the facts. I agree with you. But people in my faith, Roman Catholic, believe things simply because they are articles of faith. There is no evidence that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was a virgin but millions fervently believe it. I'm sure she was a nice lady, though.

                      Joh

                      Joh I don't see any, but you seem to see value in it.

                      Sometimes. I have faith there actually was a man called Jesus who went around saying cool stuff like "love thy neighbor". But I'm not sure his mother was a virgin.

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                            Sin

                            Sin Many would argue there isn't any.

                            I know. That's why I started wearing a belt.

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                                  Avery It is not sure he lived at all and she was a virgin in a allegorical way and not in reality.
                                  That's the problem after long time. So many interpretation and changes in the language.

                                    Avery The belt is helping you with your faith?

                                        Joh I used to think I could walk about the streets in safety. Boys would chat me up but I never thought I was in any danger (I had faith in my fellow man.) That all changed when people did hurt me so now I wear a belt and place my faith in that.

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                                            Avery
                                            That makes sense.
                                            I had understood you to be referring to the Christian faith and not in general.

                                              Vanessa I agree,intact hymen is often more important for parents than for daughter.

                                              Unless she knows it can be inspected.

                                                  HHelen

                                                  HHelen Unless she knows it can be inspected.

                                                  There's a new outrage, right up there with supervised showers and fathers installing chastity bras after making their daughters strip to the waist.

                                                        Avery Tell me, did they ever settle the question of whether insurance would cover it?

                                                        I once read that the insurance companies do not normally cover such things, but it could look different if the hymen was destroyed by rape.

                                                            Jen

                                                            Oh,yes,it is probably uncommon,so.

                                                            But if they're very in love,maybe.

                                                            HHelen

                                                            Maybe,yes.

                                                                Please, do not restore thorn hymens or, at least, consider well what are you talking about.

                                                                First of all it is an hoax, a lie, a ruse. We are not talking of resetting time and memories, we are talking of, simply, construct an artificial membrane with no purpose other than be a physical virgin while not being really someone who never had sex before, so basically we are talking about tricking other people (because you know that it is not true that you never had sex in first person, so the only one who will believe it is your lover).

                                                                In case you do not tell it to your partner, your partner is getting tricked. In case you do tell him, he will know it will only be a physical presence with no meaning, so in both case there is no real virginity or meaning.

                                                                What is worse is that it is not always nice to have to lacerate it. It can cause pain and bleeding, and i will personally not be glad to make my lover bleed or suffer if avoidable. Imagine to hear "I lost it but i placed it back so you can make me bleed and suffer again!". Borderline psycopath? Supreme fundamentalist? Magic pratictioner? I will be a little scared of a similar person (which by no means will be virgin anyway so the main goal is unreachable).

                                                                Bottom line: restored hymen doesn't mean that someone gets back her first time. First time is gone (luckily).
                                                                It also does not mean anything. There are virgins without hymen and there are some who are not virgins and still have it.
                                                                With knowledge we reached a point where we debunked a lot of facts and we know now that it doesn't pertains exclusively sex, nor it grants magical powers to rituals of dark magic or religious virtues.

                                                                We know that it's just something in the way of a nice experience which will make it worse.

                                                                  LoonyMel In case you do not tell it to your partner, your partner is getting tricked. In case you do tell him, he will know it will only be a physical presence with no meaning, so in both case there is no real virginity or meaning.

                                                                  I do not agree, reconstruction in case of accidental destruction of hymen, or by a rape...
                                                                  I can fully understand that a girl wishes gift it to her man. An accident or a criminal can not spoil that wish, I believe.

                                                                  LoonyMel What is worse is that it is not always nice to have to lacerate it. It can cause pain and bleeding, and i will personally not be glad to make my lover bleed or suffer if avoidable.

                                                                  I do not if I will bleed or if it will hurt me, but I can assure you, that pain will not make me suffer... 🤗

                                                                  LoonyMel Borderline psycopath? Supreme fundamentalist? Magic pratictioner? I will be a little scared of a similar person (which by no means will be virgin anyway so the main goal is unreachable).

                                                                  You are very harsh only because for you it does not have any importance.
                                                                  You should be more respectful with people that have another ideas, we do not insult the people that do not give the hymen any importance.
                                                                  I do not think I am a psycho.