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Sin

Max9 by name by nature! 😅

Avery

Joh I never figured out why should deflowering be important.

I'm sure your historical interpretation is correct. Anecdotally, when I was in high school certainly, and even now that I'm in university, being the first to screw a girl is an ego thing, an affirmation of the guy's charm or studliness. He was able to get the girl to do something with him she had declined to do with anyone else. But I'm sure you are right, before reliable birth control guys had to be sure the child was theirs, so virginity before marriage was very important.

Joh

Avery But I'm sure you are right, before reliable birth control guys had to be sure the child was theirs, so virginity before marriage was very important.

So it is an anachronism what has no sense nowadays.

Avery

Joh

Joh So it is an anachronism what has no sense nowadays.

Not to people who scrupulously follow the teachings of many religions and feel that (virginity 'til marriage) is the way people should live their lives. It's a risk I wouldn't take but I respect the right of people to do it.

Joh

Avery Not to people who scrupulously follow the teachings of many religions and feel that (virginity 'til marriage) is the way people should live their lives. It's a risk I wouldn't take but I respect the right of people to do it.

Every adult can decide for himself what he thinks is right or wrong. Nevertheless, everyone should inform themselves in detail and only then make their decision. Apart from that, there is again a big difference between the Christian church and the Christian faith. This is often not congruent.

Avery

Joh What then is the value of faith?

Joh

Avery What then is the value of faith?

Sorry, I don't understand you question. What are you trying to get at?

Sin

Avery What then is the value of faith?

Many would argue there isn't any.

Joh

Avery What then is the value of faith?

Now I get it.
This is individually different and lies in the eye of the observer.
I don't see any, but you seem to see value in it.

Vanessa

Sin For my parents it's not the physical state of having a hymen in place that's important, it's your actions and behaviour.

Better this way.

Foxies

No consensus about it,so?Not even a theory that is accepted by most scientists?

HHelen For the parents' convenience.

I agree,intact hymen is often more important for parents than for daughter.

LoonyMel Better to stick to the mindset than to the physical factor.

I agree.

Ines kneel in front of my man as symbol of my love...

After marriage only?

Jen

We have some voluntary male wearers,so,probably,they would wait.

Ines For example, the other day I read that with the law in the hand, is legal, in York, to kill a Scottish man if he has a bow. .. Obviously is a norm not very well suited to current times...

There is several laws such this one,some from old times,and some totally absurd,in almost all countries!😉

Jen

Vanessa We have some voluntary male wearers,so,probably,they would wait.

,😄I meant here where I live not on the forum

HHelen

Vanessa I agree,intact hymen is often more important for parents than for daughter.

Unless she knows it can be inspected.

Avery

Joh

Joh Sorry, I don't understand you question. What are you trying to get at?

You I think are arguing that people should investigate things and decide on the facts. I agree with you. But people in my faith, Roman Catholic, believe things simply because they are articles of faith. There is no evidence that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was a virgin but millions fervently believe it. I'm sure she was a nice lady, though.

Avery

Sin

Sin Many would argue there isn't any.

I know. That's why I started wearing a belt.

Vanessa

Jen

Oh,yes,it is probably uncommon,so.

But if they're very in love,maybe.

HHelen

Maybe,yes.

Avery

Joh

Joh I don't see any, but you seem to see value in it.

Sometimes. I have faith there actually was a man called Jesus who went around saying cool stuff like "love thy neighbor". But I'm not sure his mother was a virgin.

Joh

Avery It is not sure he lived at all and she was a virgin in a allegorical way and not in reality.
That's the problem after long time. So many interpretation and changes in the language.

Joh

Avery The belt is helping you with your faith?

Avery

Joh I used to think I could walk about the streets in safety. Boys would chat me up but I never thought I was in any danger (I had faith in my fellow man.) That all changed when people did hurt me so now I wear a belt and place my faith in that.

Joh

Avery
That makes sense.
I had understood you to be referring to the Christian faith and not in general.

Avery

HHelen

HHelen Unless she knows it can be inspected.

There's a new outrage, right up there with supervised showers and fathers installing chastity bras after making their daughters strip to the waist.

Laura

Avery There's a new outrage

Not so new. https://unwedchastity.org/d/312-hymen-restoration

HHelen

Avery There's a new outrage,

Not really, it's a common practice.

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