Sin For my parents it's not the physical state of having a hymen in place that's important, it's your actions and behaviour.

Better this way.

Foxies

No consensus about it,so?Not even a theory that is accepted by most scientists?

HHelen For the parents' convenience.

I agree,intact hymen is often more important for parents than for daughter.

LoonyMel Better to stick to the mindset than to the physical factor.

I agree.

Ines kneel in front of my man as symbol of my love...

After marriage only?

Jen

We have some voluntary male wearers,so,probably,they would wait.

Ines For example, the other day I read that with the law in the hand, is legal, in York, to kill a Scottish man if he has a bow. .. Obviously is a norm not very well suited to current times...

There is several laws such this one,some from old times,and some totally absurd,in almost all countries!😉

                  Avery What then is the value of faith?

                  Sorry, I don't understand you question. What are you trying to get at?

                      Avery What then is the value of faith?

                      Many would argue there isn't any.

                          Vanessa We have some voluntary male wearers,so,probably,they would wait.

                          ,😄I meant here where I live not on the forum

                              Avery What then is the value of faith?

                              Now I get it.
                              This is individually different and lies in the eye of the observer.
                              I don't see any, but you seem to see value in it.

                                  Joh

                                  Joh Sorry, I don't understand you question. What are you trying to get at?

                                  You I think are arguing that people should investigate things and decide on the facts. I agree with you. But people in my faith, Roman Catholic, believe things simply because they are articles of faith. There is no evidence that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was a virgin but millions fervently believe it. I'm sure she was a nice lady, though.

                                      Joh

                                      Joh I don't see any, but you seem to see value in it.

                                      Sometimes. I have faith there actually was a man called Jesus who went around saying cool stuff like "love thy neighbor". But I'm not sure his mother was a virgin.

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                                            Sin

                                            Sin Many would argue there isn't any.

                                            I know. That's why I started wearing a belt.

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                                                  Avery It is not sure he lived at all and she was a virgin in a allegorical way and not in reality.
                                                  That's the problem after long time. So many interpretation and changes in the language.

                                                    Avery The belt is helping you with your faith?

                                                        Joh I used to think I could walk about the streets in safety. Boys would chat me up but I never thought I was in any danger (I had faith in my fellow man.) That all changed when people did hurt me so now I wear a belt and place my faith in that.

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                                                            Avery
                                                            That makes sense.
                                                            I had understood you to be referring to the Christian faith and not in general.

                                                              Vanessa I agree,intact hymen is often more important for parents than for daughter.

                                                              Unless she knows it can be inspected.

                                                                  HHelen

                                                                  HHelen Unless she knows it can be inspected.

                                                                  There's a new outrage, right up there with supervised showers and fathers installing chastity bras after making their daughters strip to the waist.

                                                                        Avery Tell me, did they ever settle the question of whether insurance would cover it?

                                                                        I once read that the insurance companies do not normally cover such things, but it could look different if the hymen was destroyed by rape.

                                                                            Jen

                                                                            Oh,yes,it is probably uncommon,so.

                                                                            But if they're very in love,maybe.

                                                                            HHelen

                                                                            Maybe,yes.