What Are Attitudes Toward ...

LoonyMel

Sin do wakeboarding incidents count?

Doesn't matter, it counts.

Avery Or one bounce come-backers pitching softball.

Still counts.

... And do not worry. Ask a friend who work n an hospital, expecially in first aid.

Your stories or hypothesis won't be the strangest way they heard. This week.

Laura

Avery But, having been penetrated, one is no longer a virgin, at least under definitions one reads. So how would this be perceived by those who consider virginity in a person important, especially in a partner?

My parents insists on it. No penetration and intact hymen

Avery

Laura

Laura My parents insists on it. No penetration and intact hymen

I see, I wonder whether these attitudes are based on religion or culture or what. I've encountered people from two universities here in the US, Liberty and BYU, where such attitudes are common, based on religious beliefs.

Sin

Laura My parents insists on it. No penetration and intact hymen

Haven't you ever been on a waterslide?! 😖
Water skiing? Horse riding? I guess I was a bit of a tomboy growing up, I would try to keep up with my older brothers and my god I think I lost mine in a million different ways. I don't even remember having one tbh.

Ines I have never succumbed to the desire for an orgasm

Woah! Just woah!! You and I are very different people. 😁 Do you walk around with twitchy eyes?

Avery

Sin Yes, I run.

I had to look up Vanessa Low, I'm afraid. Paralympics are coming right up. Six or so hours a night of TV coverage here over two weeks or so, much of it in prime time.

Ines

Avery

Buff, we talked about the point some time ago...
In my opinion I can not say you that hymen does not have importance for me, because I would be lying you, and It is not just.
But, I can tell you that its importance is relatively minor: for me is much more important, for example , that I have never succumbed to the desire for an orgasm that my hymen.
My sister, for example, technically is a virgin, but not in my eyes, she walked paths that a miss should not walk.
For me the fact that a pure girl could lose her hymen is very sad, because for sure she would like give it to her husband or partner, and it is very sad to take away that illusion, but it does not affect to her purity.

Laura

Avery I see, I wonder whether these attitudes are based on religion or culture or what

Mostly family tradition

Sin I don't even remember having one tbh.

Have you ever seen a gyn?

Avery

Ines Thank you for that detailed answer. I was happy to read your last sentence. As a somewhat religious person I would follow what I believe is God's teaching and not judge your sister.

Vanessa

Ines is much more important, for example , that I have never succumbed to the desire for an orgasm that my hymen.

I agree.

I think physical virginity it way less important than emotional one.

I would add to possible way to break hymen while not doing anything sexual:horse riding and gymnastics.

Sin

Avery I was happy to read your last sentence. As a somewhat religious person I would follow what I believe is God's teaching

My understanding of religion is that it's what's in your heart that matters, not between your legs. 🙂

Avery

Laura

Laura Mostly family tradition

Thanks. I do seek to understand this better.

Sin

Laura yes.
I remember what happened (wakeboarding 😖), but I mean I don't really remember what it was like prior to that, and I never really considered it as something I "lost" at that particular point in time. I certainly don't consider it anything even remotely sexual. It was just another sporting injury (of which there were lots!).

For my parents it's not the physical state of having a hymen in place that's important, it's your actions and behaviour.

Vanessa

Sin For my parents it's not the physical state of having a hymen in place that's important, it's your actions and behaviour.

Better this way.

Foxies

No consensus about it,so?Not even a theory that is accepted by most scientists?

HHelen For the parents' convenience.

I agree,intact hymen is often more important for parents than for daughter.

LoonyMel Better to stick to the mindset than to the physical factor.

I agree.

Ines kneel in front of my man as symbol of my love...

After marriage only?

Jen

We have some voluntary male wearers,so,probably,they would wait.

Ines For example, the other day I read that with the law in the hand, is legal, in York, to kill a Scottish man if he has a bow. .. Obviously is a norm not very well suited to current times...

There is several laws such this one,some from old times,and some totally absurd,in almost all countries!😉

Avery

Sin I think if you follow "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" you're golden. Think of a world where everybody did that.

Separately, watching American football right now the Philadelphia Eagles kicker is a guy named Arryn Siposs who was born in Melbourne, Australia. Once played for the Dandenong Victoria Stingrays

Sin

Avery I think if you follow "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" you're golden. Think of a world where everybody did that.

Good call. :-)
I know nothing about Australian football let alone American football! I'm from the other side of the country. The only stingrays we have are likely to kill you!

Tonyand03

This thread has reminded me of something I've wondered about.
What is the purpose of a hymen? I'm not religious so 'It's God's way of helping to keep you pure' type answers mean nothing to me, but does a hymen have a practical function? Is it a leftover feature like the coccyx? Perhaps @Foxies can enlighten us?

Sin

Tonyand03 What is the purpose of a hymen?

It's just cling wrap for your vagina to keep things smelling nice and fresh. Once you pop it it's like BAM! Fish guts forever. 😁

Foxies

Tonyand03

Thanks for thinking of me as some sort of oracle on this. 😀

Alas, I am afraid I am as in the dark as all of you. I have read several theories (such as it can help keep bacteria our which might convey some evolutionary advantage to the human female) but none are very convincing to me. The jury is still out so far as I know in the scientific communities.

HHelen

Avery I am particularly interested in people's attitudes concerning forced sex, e.g. rape, incest, and how they relate to chastity and virginity.

Or "occasionally" as it usually happens.

Tonyand03 but does a hymen have a practical function?

For the parents' convenience.

Tonyand03

Sin Not sure I'm TOTALLY convinced, but it's certainly a very eloquent explanation.

LoonyMel

Tonyand03

There is not a distinct purpose, it is a matter of debate still now.
Ancient people believed it was all magic and stuff, then religious people believed some stuff which was copied from that (like all religions, just the adaptation of ancient superstitions).
Some girls have it, some do not, some notice when it goes, some do not.

It is like giving power and a mythology to an appendix with no purpose whatsoever because "people told you so".

Behavior over physical form all the way.

Tonyand03

LoonyMel But still, what is/was it actually for?

Avery

It's there to help guys keep an accurate count of how many virgins they've deflowered.

Tonyand03

Avery Yeah, I always carve another notch on the bedpost.

Joh

Avery It's there to help guys keep an accurate count of how many virgins they've deflowered.

I never figured out why should deflowering be important.

I think from ancient time coming the husband needed to know from whom the child is. So the introduced this kind of condition that a women should be virgin when she marries. With the time this was still extended and taken over by the Christian faith communities around the supremacy of the man to guarantee.
There is no documentation from the time of Jesus nor did he ever write anything down. That was written by the apostles later. Everything from memory with interpretations. Over the millennia it was changed, interpreted, adapted to the situation, etc.. What we have today is certainly not what was said then or what happened.

Avery Then I do what I think he would have wanted me to do, which is treat people decently.

That's a good motto. I can fully support it and leave the rest out of religion.

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